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So the "vote ~~blue~~ red no matter who" gaslighting has started here now?
Also, I can't help but think the choice of language by the guardian was deliberate, given the other meaning of "wobbly".
You know, mate, not every political argument you disagree with is 'gaslighting'. 'Gaslighting' is a form of emotional abuse. This article, which says 'It's possible that the Labour vote is quite soft', is not, and I kind of don't believe I have to say this, is not a form of emotional abuse. It is just an article saying 'It's possible that the Labour vote is quite soft'. It's actually critical of Labour, which hardly amounts to a polemic about the benefits of voting for them.
And even within the long and storied genre of neurotic leftwing posting, I think 'The Guardian are deploying subliminal anti-IWW messaging' really stands out.
It's classic guardian headline writing. If things look good... make them sound bad. Encourages the clicks and fake outrage.
But they're not wrong either, there's plenty of precedent for the conservatives getting a higher vote share than polls have predicted. We sometimes call it "the shy Tory" effect and revolt there's likely lots of reasons behind it, the fact remains that polls are not a guarantee of anything.
I think they were referring to the Wobblies https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_Workers_of_the_World
I was.
Never heard of them. If it's intentional I think that would be lost on the vast majority of people.