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[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's indeed really far from the "dirt" → "our planet" connection.

I dug a bit further into this matter and perhaps Ainu is not an exception. Perhaps - please take what I say with scepticism; I'm just hypothesising, nothing solid.

Accordingly to this Ainu-English dictionary, the word sir / シリ on its own means

  1. weather, appearance, status, condition
  2. land, island
  3. mountain

Meanings #2 and #3 might be the result of simple homophony, but I think that they're related. And that the word モシㇼ/mosir is bimorphemic, with the second morpheme being "that" シㇼ/sir, that originally meant "soil" - otherwise it's hard to explain how it evolved into "mountain" under meaning #3. With then トィ/toy displacing the "old" word, and becoming the main word for "dirt, mud, soil".

Or perhaps it's just an exception and my hypothesis is bullshit. Either way thank you for bringing this piece of info up.

[–] sunbather@beehaw.org 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Interesting hypothesis! It's indeed likely this could be the case, it's just unfortunate only one variant of Ainu remains and that it's in quite a precarious position, but it's fun to see different paths of how words picked up their meanings either way.