this post was submitted on 16 Jun 2024
1004 points (88.6% liked)

linuxmemes

21434 readers
1124 users here now

Hint: :q!


Sister communities:


Community rules (click to expand)

1. Follow the site-wide rules

2. Be civil
  • Understand the difference between a joke and an insult.
  • Do not harrass or attack members of the community for any reason.
  • Leave remarks of "peasantry" to the PCMR community. If you dislike an OS/service/application, attack the thing you dislike, not the individuals who use it. Some people may not have a choice.
  • Bigotry will not be tolerated.
  • These rules are somewhat loosened when the subject is a public figure. Still, do not attack their person or incite harrassment.
  • 3. Post Linux-related content
  • Including Unix and BSD.
  • Non-Linux content is acceptable as long as it makes a reference to Linux. For example, the poorly made mockery of sudo in Windows.
  • No porn. Even if you watch it on a Linux machine.
  • 4. No recent reposts
  • Everybody uses Arch btw, can't quit Vim, and wants to interject for a moment. You can stop now.
  •  

    Please report posts and comments that break these rules!


    Important: never execute code or follow advice that you don't understand or can't verify, especially here. The word of the day is credibility. This is a meme community -- even the most helpful comments might just be shitposts that can damage your system. Be aware, be smart, don't fork-bomb your computer.

    founded 1 year ago
    MODERATORS
     

    Context:

    Permissive licenses (commonly referred to as "cuck licenses") like the MIT license allow others to modify your software and release it under an unfree license. Copyleft licenses (like the Gnu General Public License) mandate that all derivative works remain free.

    Andrew Tanenbaum developed MINIX, a modular operating system kernel. Intel went ahead and used it to build Management Engine, arguably one of the most widespread and invasive pieces of malware in the world, without even as much as telling him. There's nothing Tanenbaum could do, since the MIT license allows this.

    Erik Andersen is one of the developers of Busybox, a minimal implementation of that's suited for embedded systems. Many companies tried to steal his code and distribute it with their unfree products, but since it's protected under the GPL, Busybox developers were able to sue them and gain some money in the process.

    Interestingly enough, Tanenbaum doesn't seem to mind what intel did. But there are some examples out there of people regretting releasing their work under a permissive license.

    you are viewing a single comment's thread
    view the rest of the comments
    [–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Yes, of course GPL is good for some things. But it being called the pinnacle of freedom is just wrong. It claims that it's freedom for the users, but that's not true.

    In the case of libraries, the users of the libraries are not the end users of the program. The users of the library are the developers. GPL is NOT freedom for developers.

    I completely agree that programs having a GPL license is positive. You can even use them with complete freedom in commercial settings!

    [–] merc@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago

    The one freedom the GPL removes is the freedom to be a leech. If you're linking to GPL code, you are agreeing to follow the same rules as everybody else who has contributed to that code. Nobody gets a pass

    [–] AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    In the case of libraries, the users of the libraries are not the end users of the program. The users of the library are the developers.

    Except the end user does inevitably become the user of the library when they use the software the developer made with it. They run that library's code on their machine.

    It claims that it's freedom for the users, but that's not true.

    In light of the above, this is incorrect. By using GPL, you preserve the end user's freedom to understand, control, and modify the operation of their hardware. In no way does the end user suffer or lose any freedoms.

    [–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

    I know that the end user is the focus of GPL. But me, when choosing a library, as a user, I tend to avoid using GPL ones, because they restrict my freedom. In consequence, my end users (of which there are aproximately 0 anyway) don't get GPL code either way.