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[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yep. This comic even has its own know your meme page

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Harsh to call this a "rip-off", then.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

... because it's obviously ripping it off?

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

A rip-off is something that is copying something else while pretending to be original. This is parodying the original.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee -3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

How can it be a parody if the original isn't well known?

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Because it was clearly known to the artist. This comic doesn't even make sense unless you know both the original and that these are Elden Ring characters.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee -1 points 4 months ago

I love the rollercoaster of your comments in this post. It's a good laugh. Enjoy your day and stay cool out there.

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Yes. Try and keep up with the context of the conversation.

It helps if you follow what's going on.

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So it's not well known enough to be parody as opposed to plagiarism in one context, but everyone has heard of it and is calling it out for plagiarism in another?

Makes perfect sense.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Seriously? If you're unable to follow the conversation then don't chime in.

Your little "gotcha!" comments are just showing how much you have no idea what's been said.

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I can follow a conversation just fine. In one thread, someone says it's more parody than plagiarism, although the original isn't super well known so people might not recognize it as parody, to which you reply that it obviously is since three people have called it out for being plagiarism. In this thread, you ask how something can possibly be parody if the original isn't well enough known.

Funny though that you gripe about a comic not being well known enough to be effectively parodied in reply to a comment saying the original has its own KnowYourMeme page, then accuse me of not being able to follow a conversation.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You. Are. An. Idiot.

Good bye.

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

My definition of plagiarism doesn't depend on how many people know about a thing.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Look man. You took a comment completely out of context with the rest of the conversation. And you've now double-downed on it for more than one day. Even after telling you that you're missing the context you are still still being a moron about it.

I cannot express how fucking stupid you continue to be. I'm almost impressed, except that I hate there are people like you on this website. How do you follow conversations in real life? By picking and choosing random sentences and not letting it go for hours?

Fuck off. And don't come back.

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

No seriously. What context am I missing? You've done nothing this entire thread except scream plagiarism and call everyone who isn't you a moron.

In the chain I linked to, you say it's a blatant ripoff of another comic, Samus12345 says it's a play on the same idea referencing elden ring, someone else says what the original was about (adding nothing), Samus12345 says it's clearly meant to be a parody although since the original isn't well known the parody should be presented in context, and you chime in again saying it's been called out for plagiarism, so clearly it is well known.

In the chain we're now in, you and Samus12345 go back and forth, with you saying it's a blatant ripoff and Samus12345 (correctly) arguing it's a parody (although it should show the original for context), and you ask how something can possibly be a parody if no one except you and two other people have ever seen the original.

We could have a whole other discussion about why the number of people who know about the original is a fucking stupid definition of plagiarism, and how now that everyone reading this thread has been made aware of the original's existence and the ways that the "rip-off" innovates on it, the claims of plagiarism no longer really hold water (unless you want to argue that since it wasn't OP who linked the original they were trying to steal credit, which... just... no), but I still don't see how something can be well-known enough to be recognized as plagiarism but not well known enough to be recognized as parody.