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People at a rock concert wouldn't feel obliged to stay and would be able to leave without guilt or fear.
I don't understand why they didn't have anything set up to accommodate the Pilgrims to cool them off or maybe restrict access to a limited number of people to allow them to be spaced out enough to have some breathing room.
I know if a tragic event, but god damn religion is stupid. All religions. Even those that encourage monks to starve themselves or suffer for enlightenment. As an atheist this all makes no fucking sense.
People can leave hajj at any time and come back later. They won't miss anything.
It's not an endurance event.
So why did they stay there?
It takes a long time to leave because of the crowds. It's like Disneyland.
What religion do you think you're talking about here? Catholic monks don't starve themselves, and neither do Buddhist monks.
I don't think there's any religion that's like that. I feel like you're attacking a straw man.
Edit: Are you getting confused with the story of how the Buddha, pre-enlightenment, tried starving himself, and then taught that monks shouldn't do that?
Maybe it makes no sense because you just made it up.
You need to chill.
I didn't make anything up. There are people in South Asia that do these things to gain enlightenment. I do believe they are Buddhists but I may be mistaken.
Or mayby probably didn't get the memo.
Your claim was that there are religions that encourage monks to starve themselves.
Now you're backtracking.
The fuck are you talking about??
Man fuck off.
You're pulling a red herring.
What?
I'm with ya on hating every aspect of religion, but you may be mistaking fasting for starving. The human body can survive long periods without food with no ill effects
I've fasted for 12 days before.
Maybe focus on the stupid shit like aan surviving being eaten by a "fish". Or a guy building a wooden boat and getting every species of animal aboard.