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I'm almost convinced that people don't become ultraleft; they end up ultraleft. What type of confusion, abuse, bigotry, whatever- it doesn't matter- turns someone into an ultraleft?

I'm at my wits end, are they just neoliberals that haven't accepted that fact?

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[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 22 points 3 months ago (7 children)

It seems to attract disillusioned liberals who nominally claim to oppose class society but for whatever reason want western supremacy to somehow endure in the post-class society, it's incoherent but it seems to be the emotional fuel that sustains alot of their hostile left bashing politics

Also despite many ultras making a talismanic fetish out of theory, most of them seem to have never actually read it, over the years I grew more suspicious of these so-called loremasters and came up with three simple questions on theory to determine whether an ultra has read Marx, and I'm not kidding after asking maybe a dozen or more online ultras over the years NONE of them have answered all the questions correctly, most couldn't even answer ONE right

In the end I realized Matt Christman was 100% right, these aren't political movements they're online posting styles centered on a person's idiosyncratic demographic priors and mediated thru online consumption

[–] Mog_Pharou@hexbear.net 6 points 3 months ago (6 children)

What are the three questions?

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Oh damn sorry I didn't respond, your comment just didn't get logged into my message notification for some reason

Anyway 15 days later lmao the questions are

  1. How many sources of profit are there?
  2. Does competition or monopoly define capital accumulation?
  3. Is profitability or consumption the driving force of capitalist production?
[–] Mog_Pharou@hexbear.net 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Appreciate the reply, late or not :)

I wanted to take a crack at them for my own education. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

  1. 1- labor
  2. Monopoly
  3. Profit

How I do?

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)
  1. 1- labor and 2- Profit on alienation (i.e. buy cheap, sell dear) also known as arbitrage
  2. Competition, but not how it's define by neoclassical economists
  3. Profit, you nailed it stalin-approval
[–] Mog_Pharou@hexbear.net 2 points 3 months ago
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