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[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Most states do have mandatory classes, shooting tests, and exams to get a license to carry.

And license-holders commit almost no crime, statistically-speaking. People who go out of their way and spend extra money to comply with the law tend to be law-abiding.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

My hot take that I'm sure I'll get buried for is that in the US, proper firearm safety and training should be a mandatory middle school class. There's just too many guns. Even if you don't keep them in your house, your kid's friend might. Even if some kid joins a gang and has a shootout with another gang, at least they won't just spray and pray and kill an innocent bystander. I see no downsides except that progressives get apopleptic whenever anyone mentions guns.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Agreed. We learn CPR when though we don't plan on heart attacks. People should be taught basic firearm safety.

[–] Bgugi@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Stop, drop, and roll caused me to seriously overestimate the number of times I would be on fire in my life.

[–] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

I hate making something like that mandatory, but another benefit would be to reduce the stigma of guns in general.

It always surprises me how frequently I hear from otherwise pretty open minded people some version of, "I don't own guns and I've never needed a gun. Therefore nobody anywhere needs one or should have one for any reason and I'd fully support completely banning them, and if that violates the constitution, so what, it's what I want."

Further, gun education would reduce the ideas and legislation to restrict guns based on nonsense. There's a lot of fear of "scary guns" based on little more than superficial appearance, and I even see a lot of ideas from people claiming to want compromise, but it usually comes down to one of a few things: some arbitrary delineation between guns they're okay with because they don't look scary, something that would do little more than make criminals out of otherwise law abiding people, or depriving law abiding citizens of constitutionally guaranteed rights without due process.

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

As a license holder I'm well aware of all that. You typically only need a license to carry concealed. At least in my state, open carry is legal almost everywhere and requires nothing. It's those people that need the training.

The real way to do it is require a license, along with recurring training requirements, to BUY and own gun, not just carry one. But the NRA and the politicians they own have a shit fit over any reasonable barrier to gun ownership. They are perfectly ok with sacrificing school children over the issue.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

I'm from Texas, where they removed most licensing requirements and it's idiotic. You still need one to carry on a college campus and certain other state-owned facilities, but it's mostly a free-for-all.

I still keep my License to Carry up to date because I think I should have to maintain a license. It also let's me skip the security line in some state facilities (including the Capitol) where license holders can carry.

I used to also shoot weekly during lunch break at nearby range too to keep my skills up. Now I only go a few times a year because a buying a case of 9mm just about requires taking out a second mortgage. I also rarely carry, since in business casual it's hard to conceal anything but a pocket 380, and I'm so bad with my LCP I'd have trouble shooting my car while sitting inside it.