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[–] forgotmylastusername@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

They ignored the point that capitalism uses violent oppression to suppress innovation. Kind of a main point of the video. The evidence that other ideological regimes cannot innovate is always implicitly that capitalists won by military might therefore the interlocutor is compelled to concede a flawed premise from the outset.

It's like smashing the sportsball net then saying you won the game. Especially if one were to come from a scientific perspective that is not a proper comparison of technological innovation when you ensure nobody else can even try.

Show us a world were different regimes compete scientific and technologically without resorting to violence against the others. We couldn't have it because capitalists sabotage your science experiment, take your equipment, then declare themselves the winner.

[–] SOMETHINGSWRONG@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 4 months ago

Even with the US pouring every gram of the value generated by its citizens labor into violence and global oppression of socialism

Even with the USSR spending all its money on its own citizens quality of life instead of enriching the bourgeois

The Americans still lost 19/20 space race milestones and called themselves the winner

If Reagan won 20 years earlier and torched American industry, science, and labor a little sooner we might have been posting this from the Jupiter orbital colony.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago

very much agree