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[โ€“] Kachajal@lemmy.ml 33 points 4 months ago (2 children)

For the same reasons they always have.

The year has little to do with it. The only things we've really undeniably progressed in over the past century are scientific knowledge and the level of technology. Existential philosophy hasn't exactly made breakthroughs recently, to my knowledge.

Each person still needs to find their own answer to the fundamental questions of "why am I here" and "wtf is death and how do I deal with it".

Our mechanical, scientific understanding of reality provides fairly depressing answers to these questions. Religion? Sunshine and roses.

Also, on a more practical factor: childhood indoctrination and cultural inertia. Most people are raised in religion and they find it "good enough", so religion continues.

[โ€“] sneezycat@sopuli.xyz 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I find it more depressing that there is a God that decides what is good and what isn't and gives us "free will" just so He can torture us for eternity if we dont do what He wants... kinda fucked up ngl

Fortunately I don't need any more reasons to live than enjoying my day to day, being with the people I love, doing my little projects etc.

[โ€“] Baphomet_The_Blasphemer@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Oh, continuing down that line of thinking leads to far worse then "kinda fucked up." If the judeo christian deity exists and is accurately described by their books than it is a total monster not worthy of praise or devotion...

What I understand about the judeo christian god is that they are believed to have created everything that has ever been or will ever be. They have total knowledge of everything past present and future, and they "knew me" prior to them creating me, knew what kind of person I would be, and knew without doubt that I wouldn't believe in or worship them... so they created me with full knowledge that I'll spend eternity being tortured in hell. What kind of benevolent deity brings a creature into existence just so they can be tortured? If that's not full blown fucked up, then I don't know what is.

[โ€“] Stovetop@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

You've basically touched on one of the core logical issues at play in Abrahamic religions (and others). God is omnipotent and omniscient, or people have free will. It can't be both.

[โ€“] Zacryon@lemmy.wtf 11 points 4 months ago

Here is a nice visualisation of the logical paradox:

[โ€“] Flyswat@lemmy.ml -4 points 4 months ago (3 children)

God knowing what you will do does not remove your responsibility of the decision you made.

[โ€“] relevants@feddit.de 6 points 4 months ago

This isn't about responsibility, it's about preventing suffering. If you could prevent a genocidal leader from being born, which you knew would save hundreds of thousands of innocent lives, why wouldn't you? Because it's that person's "responsibility" that all of those innocent people died after all?

[โ€“] Stovetop@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So is God powerless to stop people from committing evil?

[โ€“] Flyswat@lemmy.ml -4 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[โ€“] seth@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

That is not an answer, it's a man avoiding the question entirely.

[โ€“] gaifux@lemmy.world -2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

The year has little to do with it

The irony. Why exactly does the entire world accept the current year as being 2024? What are we 2024 years away from?

[โ€“] ripcord@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

For the same sort of reasons there are (generally) 12 months in a year and there are 7 days on a calendar, and for the same reason that "John" is a name, and why London is placed where it is, and etc?

Because some dudes decided some stuff, and some other dudes decided some stuff influenced like that, and so on. And some stuff got changed, and some stuff was inconvenient to change or there was no real reason to change it.

The year is ironic in the exact context you quoted I guess. But the days of the week and many months were named for other mythologies.

[โ€“] Kachajal@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago

What I was actually saying is that the same reasons for belief apply whether it's 2000 BCE or 4000 CE. Humans remain human, and religion fills an inherent need.

There's other religions than Christianity - large ones - that do not consider the birth of Christ as particularly meaningful. The fact that we're using it as a point of reference is meaningful - the Christian religion has been very influential - but it is hardly some grand irony you seem to imply.