I understand all this but I just don't personally see it as a problem the same way many others seem to. I constantly read comments I strongly disagree with (for example when discussing this topic) and it's fine. A racist comment here and there doesn't bother me much. If it's written in "good faith" but I disagree with it I'll either downvote or not engage. If it's just pure hate with no content I block the user and I don't need to deal with them ever again. I'm an adult capable of deciding myself what I don't mind seeing on my feed and what I do. I view it as a kind of a science experiement. I like exposing myself to ideologies even if I strongly disagree with them. I find it interesting when people have a completely different world view to me.

When it comes to stuff that's illegal it's a different story. Ofcourse I need to deal with it wether it personally affects me or not.

Also nazis are not the point here. It's just an extreme example. We could be speaking of flat earthers aswell.

[–] sussy_gussy@wirebase.org 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are also instances made to host spam bots (when they host it themselves they can make as many bots as they want and as fast as they want without having to worry about captcha) and instead of blocking each bot manually, our admins have the option to block that bot instance entirely. That's a pretty powerful moderation tool. They may of course also use this to block communities with a different ideology than them to avoid conflict. If you don't want this, you can join an instance that doesn't do this (that choice is the cool thing about the fediverse) and you could even host your own instance if you have the know how.

[–] god@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

He didn't say anything about spammers though, just dissenting opinions. Obviously if your instance is filled with 99% spam you ban the spam. Nothing to do with the nazis thing he was talking about.

[–] damipereira@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the beauty of federation is that each instance can have it's own moral code, I figure we will see everything-not-illegal-lemmy.com at some point, without any conmunity except meta ones, with admins that just do not de-federate from anything else.

You can be part of any instance that aligns with your values. And each community can decide which instance to live in. If some community wants to live in an instance which allows everything so anyone can comment, then maybe they move or start their own.

And I don't think only horrible people would want this. I figure some community like suicide watch might want to allow everyone to comment no matter where they are from. Making de-federation the only option would suck, but it's not. There can be different bubbles, and bubbles which contain them.

[–] Stumblinbear@pawb.social 3 points 1 year ago

And when that instance is created, it will get defederated from immediately