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[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Now it doesn’t take much imagination to think of scenarios where the money tap turns off - just let Trump win next year and watch him speed run turning it off - and then what?

Are you honestly saying that if Trump wins he's going to cut defense spending? Like really? You actually think the GOP is going cut defense spending? Reaaaaalllllly?

If so I got some NFTs I want to sell you LOL.

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cut defense spending? No. Stop sending weapons to Ukraine? Almost certainly.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So it follows that the whole conspiracy theory about Ukraine being a scheme to justify defense spending is all bullshit. The US doesn't actually need external reasons to justify defense spending.

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, yeah, the conspiracy theory is bullshit. Just pointing out that if Trump wins, turning off the tap of support to Ukraine is very much a possibility.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

Well yeah, Trump is Putin's puppet.

[–] kava@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The US doesn't actually need external reasons to justify defense spending.

Yes it actually does. Congress can't just pass a bill randomly and send $100 billion to Raytheon and Lockheed Martin. It needs a big seemingly groundbreaking reason. Which is partly why this war has been so hyped up and Russian is depicted as a major threat to Europe when realistically they are so weak they can't even properly conquer the poorest country in Europe right next to their borders.

I say partly because it actually is a fairly important war being the largest war in Europe since WW2. But absolutely, just like Cheney & co took advantage of 9/11 to funnel money into war, our modern day politicians are doing the same thing. It's not a conspiracy theory. Or at least, in 20 years from now people will talk about it as if it's obvious.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

Where is this $100 billion to Raytheon and Lockheed Martin? Is this real legislation or just something you made up?

20 years from now people will be talking about how obvious it was that Glavset was pumping propaganda on the internet. How could people have been silly enough to believe their obvious bullshit?

But here we are. Russia brazenly invades a sovereign democracy and a legion of people on the internet think "this is fine" simply because the internet told them to think this way. Ah you can be contrarian to all logic and reason (be a rebel!) by supporting foreign authoritarians!

[–] kava@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

Money to Ukraine. Not defense spending. Try reading more slowly next time. That helps me sometimes.

We're discussing the billions of dollars going to a) prop up the Ukrainian budget and b) "military aid" which goes through our favorite defense contractors.

It's very likely should Trump win that this fountain is getting closed. He's said as much fairly explicitly.