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Why in 2024 do people still believe in religion? (serious) (lemmy.world)

submitted 4 months ago by return2ozma@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Then we are in agreement that string theory is simply a belief until any evidence has been found. That doesn’t stop them from writing books, holding lectures, and convincing others to participate in the field. I don’t go around telling ten-dimensional physicists to stop believing in, and speculating about, a theoretical field that’s devoid of evidence. I’d consider that pretty arrogant. Just because there’s no evidence, doesn’t mean it’s impossible. Sound familiar?

Again, regardless of how strongly someone believes in religion, it’s still a belief, just like string theory. Why are the atheists in this thread qualified to tell them they are wrong to hold it?

You keep circumventing the main point that I’m making. The religious commenting here were not telling others to believe. Most were not even citing dogma, only how faith affects them positively. Atheists were imposing their own beliefs on the religious through unsolicited critical condemnation.

How can you not see the arrogance in that?

[–] A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It doesn't sound familiar because nobody here is saying God is impossible. We're saying they don't have good reason for believing he exists.

I don’t go around telling ten-dimensional physicists to stop believing in, and speculating about, a theoretical field that’s devoid of evidence.

You wouldn't have to tell them to stop "believing" in string theory because none of them do. The math happens to work out so a lot of them are interested, but none of them "believe" in it because it hasn't been tested.

Why are the atheists in this thread qualified to tell them they are wrong to hold it?

We're not saying they're wrong. We're saying their reasons for believing aren't good reasons. And in a thread about why people believe, criticism is not only warranted, but expected.

Gnostic atheists were imposing their own beliefs on the religious through unsolicited critical condemnation.

Can you point me to even one atheist here making a gnostic claim? The link you already gave is just Communist saying you don't have evidence, and it seems like you're translating every other instance of that to "GOD ISN'T REAL".

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You’re going in circles now. I linked a conversation where Communist explicitly stated people are wrong to believe in god without proof. It’s one of many on this post.

I’m not taking another lap with you.

Good luck always being right.

Take care.

[–] A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

and it seems like you're translating every other instance of that to "GOD ISN'T REAL".

Ah, so I was right