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this post was submitted on 23 Jun 2024
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This English speaking “europe@feddit.de” was always a bit out of place on a primarily German speaking instance. The same would be true for feddit.org, I guess. Maybe we should just depreciate this community and see if another English speaking Europe community takes over? As long as it isn’t the one on lemmy.ml (which has major moderation issues), I think I would be fine with that. I only stepped up moderating it on feddit.de because it was very active at the time and the previous mod stepped down.
This community is the biggest one by far. Shutting this would be bad IMHO. Is there a way to move it to another instance?
Hope I'm wrong, but I don't think so.
You can pin a message to a new one, and lock the old one down, that works for most of the people
In that case mods should do that ASAP, to give enough time to people to notice it before the server shuts down.
Also should probably create the new community, lemm.ee doesn't seem to have one already.
Afaik there are no plans to shut the server down
Even if the server keeps running, not being able to access the frontend is a bit worrying
There is /c/yurop@lemm.ee
Edit: the problem with lemm.ee is that their block-list lacks some instances that are likely to be problematic for this community specifically, as seen on the lemmy.ml equivalent.
Which is a laid back community, so no news, probably not a good replacement for !europe@feddit.de
Which ones? feddit.org has at least hexbear and lemmygrad blocked. lemmy.ml is probably still a bit too big on some communities for many to outright block yet.
The community on lemmy.ml has the problem that there are some very persistent users that constantly post pro-Russian propaganda or similar mis-information to it, and the lemmy.ml admins refuse to appoint a new mod and seem to be generally fine with that. I certainly wouldn't want to moderate a similar community where Hexbear and Lemmygrad users have full access to like they would on lemm.ee. if fact I wouldn't even be able to as my home instance is defederated from these instances and thus such posts would be invisible to me.
To be honest, neither Hexbear nor Lemmygrad has caused any noticable issues for lemm.ee. I recently compiled some stats for lemm.ee rule breakers by home instance, and as you can see in this post (in the "Administration" section), neither of those instances even made the top 10.
In general, mods haven't complained about those two instances either, and the stats for community bans by independent community mods are more or less very similar. If any users creates issues in a lemm.ee community, then the community mods are free to just ban those users, regardless of what instance their account is hosted on.
Preventing such situations for lemm.ee mods is actually one of the many reasons we don't want to use defederation as a moderation tool on lemm.ee - we rather use site bans etc. Too much collateral damage with defederation, especially when dealing with larger instances which probably have vastly more innocent users than problematic ones. We reserve defederation for more extreme cases, like spam instances & CSAM.
Thank you for your input
I'm not saying to move to .ml, I'm saying it still has quite too many large communities for most instances to consider defederating from them. Personally I block all .ml communities manually since kbin / mbin does not have a universal instance blocking feature.