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Zelensky Removes a Top General Amid Criticism of Excessive Casualties (www.nytimes.com)

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[–] landlords_morghulis@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Last I think I heard, the Kiev regime has been losing up to 2000(?) soldiers a day. At this rate Ukraine is genociding it's own population just to become another US military outpost and keep the meat grinder running.

Edit: changed 2000 to 200 because I thought I was crazy, then back to 2000 again

[–] OrnluWolfjarl@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Last week they lost 15000 soldiers in a week, according to the Russian MoD weekly report.

There was another social media post by another Ukrainian commander (regular army, I think their formation is defending Novovasilevka?) that says that the newest recruits are being blindfolded when transported to the front. The most recent mobilization has been so forceful, that even the Ukrainian government expects their new recruits to surrender immediately and give up information to the Russians.

But those kinds of posts are of course ignored.

[–] landlords_morghulis@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I first thought I heard it was 2000 a day, then I thought that can't be right, must be 200... nope, it is. I guess that speaks to how unhinged things are when even I have trouble believing the amount of death that's happening. I doubt the current conscription rates are even close to that.

[–] OrnluWolfjarl@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 4 months ago

Ukrainians have announced recently that they are mobilizing 5000 a day, but that's probably just PR. Even if true, the quality of this troops is most likely shit, due to age, health issues, unwillingness to fight and extremely short training.

[–] MarxMadness@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

At this rate Ukraine is genociding it’s own population

We should not throw this term around casually.

[–] xkyfal18@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 4 months ago

yeah i don't think genociding, as much as I hate the Kiev regime, is the right word in this context. They were conducting ethnic cleansing operations in the Easternmost territories tho.

[–] landlords_morghulis@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Not with intent, but almost in effect. Conscription is a death sentence and Ukranians are hiding in fear of the kidnapping squads. Losses have been staggering and completely unsustainable. Yet Kiev keeps going all-in on some new escalation and another, which only really promise to gut the population further. While they might posture to the contrary, the Kiev regime cares little more for the lives of the Ukranians than those of Russians.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 4 months ago

Kiev regime cares little more for the lives of the Ukranians than those of Russians.

Who's the fucking Sauron now, eh libs?

[–] MarxMadness@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 4 months ago

Intent is a key element of genocide. Just like if you kill someone by negligence it's not murder, if you kill a lot of your own people by mismanaging a war it's not genocide.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 4 months ago

Oh yeah, Ukrainian losses are absolutely insane. I really can't see how this can go on much longer. You need a professional and motivated core to hold things together, and once that's gone it's gonna be game over.