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[-] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 37 points 4 days ago

Both of these guys are ancient. I wouldn't care if any of them used drugs (as long as they don't pose long-term risks for their health) because they might as well be medication. Or are we going to be so dense that the idea that two 80 years olds are likely taking some medication is going to fly over our heads? Furthermore, where do we draw the line of what a "drug-enhancing drug" is? Coffee? Most adults take it to function under inhuman schedules. Adderall? If you do have ADHD, you do also need it to function; if you don't have it, it's going be even less useful than coffee. Anything else that they bought at a pharmacy? I don't care.

All in all, this looks like a talking point made up by people who want to treat politics like a sport, where we're supposed to watch "athletes" compete with equal opportunity for performance, which is definitely not what a presidential debate should be about.

[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

They're more likely using "wakefulness promoting agents" like modafinil and armodafinil (Provogil/Nuvigil respectively, or probably some better shit in the same class) which are actually kind of amazing and I have zero issue with them taking it.

Non-euphoric, and as far as I'm aware, not physically habit forming; it just keeps you awake and alert, I don't know how else to describe it. Essentially none of the side effects (pleasurable or not) of traditional stimulants. After about 8-10 hours you sleep pretty ok.

I'm really not sure why these drugs haven't become more popular over the last decade or two... Probably the whole "not habit forming" thing.

I've got a stash that I've had in a drawer for 5+ years and I'll take one like three times a year or something as needed.

I’ve got a stash that I’ve had in a drawer for 5+ years and I’ll take one like three times a year or something as needed.

Yo, I just re-read your comment. Yeah, that's... not good. Modafinil is deffo one of those ones youre supposed to titrate off of and going off of it cold turkey or only using it here and there is one of the ways to get those really dangerous side effects. Please stop this.

[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

There is no titrating off a single dose, what do you mean? Titration would require taking the drug regularly for a period of time and then stopping.

I think you misunderstood what I said. I take one on the super rare occasion that I feel I need it, which probably averages out to like 3 times a year or less. There is nothing dangerous about that, and if you think there is then you're misinformed.

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