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Any cease fire talks?
We are just burning public money.
That's what Russia wants I think.
Putin offers truce if Ukraine exits Russian-claimed areas and drops NATO bid. Kyiv rejects it
Russia occupies most, but not all, of the territory in question. They are winning the war, and this is the type of offer you make when you're winning. As the article notes, this is not some new request; this has been on the table for a while.
Ukraine is losing, but slowly. They could take this deal now, saving their own people's lives, or they could continue sending men into the meat grinder and wind up with this or worse in maybe another year.
Compare Russia's terms to this -- a totally delusional offer for the losing side to suggest.
Considering the only reason the war went on was because NATO blocked the peace talks, I'd argue Russia only cares about their security interests being respected.
Not just that but the Minsk accords were meant to be ruse as Merkel said. Unfortunately westerners don't know or care for how long this war has been incited. "Where were you for the last 8 years" is now a wikipedia page that shitlibs can throw at you as a thought terminating argument.
https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_briefs/RB10014.html
Oops. They played the reverse uno card