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  • A US Navy nuclear-powered ballistic-missile submarine surfaced in the Norwegian Sea.
  • It was accompanied by a guided-missile cruiser and two naval aircraft.
  • The show of force came weeks after Russia sent a submarine and naval fleet to Cuba.
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[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago

I've never wanted to be wrong about anything more than WW3...

But I keep seeing all these articles that make it really look like WW3 is right around the corner...

Like, the entire point of SSBNs is to hide and no one knows where they are. Popping up just to flex is not a good sign. It's trading the actual point of their existence (no one knows where our nukes are) for a show of force.

It's not a rational choice to do this, Russia knows we have SSBNs all over the globe, they don't need to actually see one and know where it is

[-] lordnikon@lemmy.world 33 points 5 days ago

if it helps give you any comfort WW3 has always been around the corner in one way or another for as long as most of us have been alive. if you are reading articles about it. Then it's not going to start and if it does start it will all be over before you even hear about it. So try your best to just live the life you can.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago

I've been paying attention for decades, hell, I was in the military. I definitely paid more attention to geopolitics back then. Because even idle threats and shows of force directly effected my life.

Shits not how it used to be. It's a lot worse now. And people ignoring it just makes it keep getting worse.

[-] lordnikon@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago

I was in the military as well but other than voting and writing your local and regional Representatives. Which everyone should be doing no mater what. what do you suggest the avg person do to affect geopolitics other than stress ourselves out. Let me know what we should do and I will be there.

There is no morality in Foreign Policy it all about power be that soft or hard power. That machinery of that power goes back hundreds of years ago. Do you know what I worry about?

I worry about if my neighbors have enough food to eat. Do the teachers have the supplies to teach our kids the best they can. Building a community support network. These are things I can affect change.

The sad thing is climate change will take us out and cause more suffering than a true WW3 will ever do and I'm not just talking about the heat. I'm talking water wars that have already started happening. Supply chain issues caused by climate stopping people getting the right medicine another pandemic.

The rest is just Saber Rattling.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago

Let me know what we should do and I will be there.

I used to say "vote in the primaries"

But with the way the DNC has been acting, that's not enough anymore.

The solution isn't easy, and it won't be quick.

But the first step is Dem voters having higher standards than "not a Republican".

If you think it's too late now, then it's going to be too late in every future election.

The sad thing is climate change will take us out and cause more suffering than a true WW3 will ever do

Same solution.

Politicians don't have to be terrible, they can look out for citizens. But unless voters have standards, we'll keep settling for corrupt pieces of shit.

[-] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

But the first step is Dem voters having higher standards than "not a Republican".

The prerequisite to that is to dismantle the NRA and purge the Republican party from power by vote or by force so they can't ever back another Hitler wannabe again. Then we can talk policy.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -1 points 5 days ago

Lets say you're a firefighter.

You get called to 100 America Street.

You show up and that house is burnt down. It's just smoldering ruins. But 102 America St is still standing, their garage is on fire tho

Would you try to save 102? Or spray water on the remains of 100?

By the time 100 is completely extinguished, 102 might be too far gone.

So I'm saying ignore the lost cause for now. And focus on saving the only other house on the street.

[-] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Your example hinges on the implication that 100 America Street (ie the Republican Party) is stable and unable to cause further harm. In reality, 100 America Street is a blazing inferno, has billionaires in white hoods tossing cans of gasoline at it, and houses tons of high explosives that will absolutely level the entire neighborhood if/when it goes off.

Ignoring 100 to piss on 102 is only going to make a bad situation much, much, much worse. And at this point in time, one can't help but wonder whether anyone distracting from 100 America Street is doing so out of ignorance or malice.

[-] lordnikon@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago

i agree with all of that but everything you have listed is voting which I already said you should do without question and really should be the bare minimum of civic duty and as you have said not very effective. Plus that only affects domestic policy and you have to change a lot of domestic policy to even scratch the surface of changing foreign policy.

By no means am I saying give up but the more you look at foreign policy and spend your mental capacity. The more they distract you from changing the local that will change very slowly the domestic that will change the foreign. the powers at be want you terrified of the things you can't change to distract you from the things you can. so they stay in power.

It's the same thing with terrorism conventional warfare doesn't work against an irregular force. It takes slow moves at a very local level like like we leaned from FM 3-23 assuming you are US military, forgive me if you already not.

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