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[–] StinkySocialist@lemmy.ml 93 points 3 months ago (79 children)

This Biden protection is crazy. we need a candidate who actually stands a chance against Trump. this is insane. It's 2016 all over again.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (6 children)

Bush was clearly the face man of an executive admin that he didn't run, he was s figure head. Clinton, it was assumed by the press and a lot of the voter base wasn't running his admin, the first term Hillary was said to be running things and a slew of technocrats was assumed his second term, Reagan, we now know historically, was experiencing Alzheimer's all through out his presidency, much like Trump, he also had a strict schedule of not even pretending he showed up to work.

There's nothing wrong with electing the face of an administration you want in office, this is largely Obama's admin still running the government, that's what we all want. Unkie Joe can take all the naps he wants, it make no real difference.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

This is a really important point.

The president is really only as good as his staff. They can only do so much as an individual person.

Joe Biden knows how to hire a good staff, and respects the limitations of hisnl office.

Meanwhile, if Trump could've harnessed the energy from his revolving door of "loyalists", we might've been able to stay under 2°C.

But, part of Project 2025 is actually planning to make 50,000 merit-based non-political positions (basically middle-management, and sometimes lower, at NASA or ATF or Dept of Education or FDA) into political appointments, and fire them if they don't toe the party line. In order to circumvent Congress and run everything unilaterally.

[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Are you telling me that a younger progressive would not have a good staff?

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah. That was a weird comment...

Biden supporters try to defend Biden, and always end up making the argument that trump is terrible and/or the president isn't important

So like, we should just replace him is the logical conclusion.

But that's the opposite of what they set out to say.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 months ago

The president sets the tone of the administration. Ultimately they are the big boss, but they don't do everything.

I take issue with being called a Biden supporter. Biden is mediocre at best. I'dve much preferred if a more...motivational, I guess, DNC candidate in 2020. We obviously knew that whoever won would be 4 years older (and many more battle-worn) come re-election, and it's pretty unorthodox for any party to let the incumbents president be primaried. I can't think of a time.

In fact, I think the DNC was secretly hoping that Biden would've bit the dust 2 or 3 years in.

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