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[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 91 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Between “Democrats say ‘Vote’” and “Democrats do nothing to fight back,” they didn’t vote in 2016.

This Supreme Court is a result of that inaction.

Congratulations on demonstrating how voter abstention hands the government to Republicans.

Let’s not do that any more.

[-] EchoCT@lemmy.ml 40 points 3 days ago

We had 8 good years before that and didn't set up any protections.

[-] FiniteBanjo 43 points 3 days ago

During the last year of that, Obama was denied the ability to nominate a Supreme Court Justice on an Election Year. Then, Trump got 2 nominees appointed to the SCOTUS, one of which was on an election year.

[-] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works -5 points 2 days ago

Denied as in dems were unable to or chose not to?

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago

As in the Republican Senate decided they weren't going to vote on any nominations from Obama.

[-] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 days ago

As in republicans could veto the nomination?

Could dems veto the new justices?

Sorry im not American and am trying to understand. I thought dems could have but chose not too due to integrity.

[-] candybrie@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The Senate has to confirm the president's picks. The Republicans controlled the Senate during Obama's last years in office. So they just didn't confirm his pick. Their reasoning was that it was an election year. When Trump faced the same situation (supreme court vacancy in an election year), the Republicans still controlled the senate and confirmed his pick.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Ahh okay. When the President wants to nominate a new federal judge the Senate has to approve them. At the time the other party controlled the Senate. The effect was to leave the Supreme Court with an even number of Judges for a while, making tie decisions possible. They also broke their own rule once they had the Senate and Presidency. So they aren't making arguments in good faith.

[-] FiniteBanjo 4 points 2 days ago

How to appoint SCOTUS judges:

  1. Vacancy on Court (usually means the old Judge died)

  2. Presidential Nomination

  3. Senate votes to confirm


How to remove judges:

  1. Impeachment hearings in congress

  2. Senate votes to remove Judge

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 28 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

You had the first 2 years of Obama. Obama's thanks for the ACA was voters not showing up and losing the house of representatives for year 3 and 4. And again for year 5 and 6. And then both the house and Senate in years 7 and 8. So no you didn't have 8 years with Obama, you had 2 years with Obama because voters did not show up. Congress is what passes laws and has power. They even shut down the freaking government under Obama.

[-] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago

With a heavily divided legislature that only just passed the ACA before it exploded.

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Only Congress can increase the number of Justices on the Supreme Court. We had two years of congressional majority in the last twenty. They focused on healthcare.

How could they have possibly predicted that they’d need to expand and pack the Supreme Court to prevent the next President from becoming a dictator?

[-] Garbanzo@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

They focused on healthcare.

And they gave us Romneycare

[-] thallamabond@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago

And even that was a monumental task. One vote away in the Senate, and that one guy got rid of the single payer option for the cost of his vote. Joe Lieberman if you want to look him up, the guy who started no labels political party (without a platform).

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

4 years, or 3 because of Scott Brown. But we just had 2 years. And Obama had 1 year.

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