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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

That pause is evidence itself that he knew they were committing war crimes with our military aid. Which he did not pause even 90% of. He paused airplane bombs. Everything else from Bullets to Artillery shells was still getting sent the entire time.

And your statement is false, Bush got them to remove settlements. I was just talking about previous democrats but if we want to include all presidents then there are certainly some who have done more to slow down Israel. For example in the 1990's there was the Oslo Accords.

Performative actions do not absolve you of illegally supplying weapons to a criminal regime.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

So your contention is that

  1. Although Biden is the only president to actively contradict and issue sanctions against the Israeli government and its settlers for their colonization and war crimes,

  2. Biden's the least active president to actively contradict and issue sanctions against the Israeli government and its settlers for their colonization and war crimes.

Even though nobody else has contradicted Israel or issued sanctions and Biden has.

You are confused.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You are ignoring key issues I've brought up to continue your counter factual narrative. I'm used to dealing with this from Republicans. Getting this from Democrats is seriously disappointing.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

This is the historical narrative.

You might not want to make up stores if you don't want to be disillusioned.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No it isn't. You're doing the same thing Trump's supporters do and creating alternative facts.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

All the things I'm saying are correct.

Biden was the first president to issue sanctions and directly contradict the Israeli government over civilian settlers and IDF war crimes and executions.

I know that throws off your make-believe, but that's the nature of the truth.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Nope

Nope Again.

And Nope.

Again. Performative sanctions on 3 people isn't a consequence. And you cannot "contradict" someone committing a crime while you hand them the gun to do it. Next you're going to tell me the wheel man at the bank robbery wasn't part of the crew because he said mean things about the point man.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I know it makes you feel better to make things up when you don't have a substantive rebuttal to biden's sanctions and actions taken against Israel completely destroy your tantrum, but that doesn't make the facts any less true.

I enjoy fiction though, keep at it.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Giving them weapons is not taking action against them.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You're right, the sanctions, and then directly contradicting netanyahu and telling them you won't support a continued and then pausing weapon shipments is taking action.

You're crawling there.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

He sent those bombs. And he never stopped sending everything else

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Oh you mean like every other us president for 70 years?

Except that Biden actually paused military aid imposed sanctions and stood up to Israel?

The first us president to do any of those things.

Fascinating.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

He hasn't imposed any sanctions on Israel. He's sanctioned 3 people who aren't even in government.

And if you read the links you'd know he's not the first.

Also, if those previous shipments were also illegal, that does not mean it's any better now.

Your arguments just get worse. Please stop. Seriously.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

You don't like it when people contradict your false statements with the truth?

Shocking.

Unfortunately, some of us know what we're talking about and don't need to make up the fictions you need to.

Biden is doing the specific work you're throwing a tantrum about.

Happy to rain on your fantasy.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Whatever drugs you're taking I'm going to want some when you guys zombie walk us into another Trump presidency.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I agree, you should definitely be medicated.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

See what you're talking about is every single other president in US history.

What I'm talking about is Biden taking direct action by sanctioning, contradicting and pausing weapon shipments to Israel.

You made a whoopsie there. Confusing one person with every other person in the group.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This was you.

All the things I'm saying are correct.

Biden was the first president to issue sanctions and directly contradict the Israeli government over civilian settlers and IDF war crimes and executions.

I know that throws off your make-believe, but that's the nature of the truth.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago

Wow, how did you manage that deduction?