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There are no natural systems untouched by human actions, and there is no way to separate the consequences of a changing environment like extinction from human activity.
Conservation is a movement to preserve the natural systems that were here before industrialisation, and are here now, not to "let nature run it's course*.
There are no rights in nature, rights are a part of the fabric of society. We want to conserve nature and so we will.
And what happens when this intervention causes new unforeseen consequences? How many disruptions until we leave well enough alone?
We don't live in nature. We literally live in a human society. Rights do apply to us within our own realm lmao.
Edit: You probably stack rocks.
Human society exists entirely within nature. There's not some diving line where this place over here is natural and this place over there is unnatural. We decide what rights we have to what, because we decided that rights should exist.
There is no leaving well enough alone, unless you are content to watch it decline into deserts and polluted wastelands. Every action has consequences, and since we have already acted, the state of nature is the consequence of our action whether or not we continue to intervene.
Very colonizer-brained. We certainly can delineate ourselves to a certain degree. At what scope have we tried leaving well enough alone for nature to run its course? Human "wisdom" has caused untold damage, what makes you so certain that same wisdom is what's best?
And this isn't a call for humanity to stop progressing or anything(though maybe....) just that well intentioned conservation seems short sighted and self serving. I'm not convinced our intervention is what will halt the decay.
colonizer brain is when uh conserving native species
your takes are getting even more fucking stupid