this post was submitted on 03 Jul 2024
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we are in the process of the second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

People forget in the first civil war Lincoln went out of his way immediately after his election to promise he wouldn't try to outlaw slavery because he felt it would prevent civil war.

It didn't. Because the South wanted to force northern states to return escaped slaves.

So he outlawed slavery during the war as an economic sanction.

Never trust fascist when they say "unless you do _____ then it's civil war".

They'll keep saying it till it doesn't work, then they'll start a civil war anyways

[–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Lincoln outlawed slavery during the Civil War to stop Britain and France getting involved on the side of the CSA. But whether it was an economic sanction or a preemptive political strike, it was never about the enslaved people. If that were the real cause of the Civil War, the Emancipation Proclamation would’ve been the first thing he did, not one of the last.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Lincoln outlawed slavery during the Civil War to stop Britain and France getting involved on the side of the CSA.

I think it was more to show Europe that if the North won (everyone knew they would) that the South wouldn't be able to continue export, this dissuading them from supporting the South during the war.

Like obviously the South didn't immediately stop using slaves. But it was to make foreign investors hesitant from putting money into the South and buying up plantations. Which would have been used to fund the South's army

So I guess a pre-emptive economic sanction for political reasons?

I dunno, I'm going off of memory here and it's been a minute