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[–] TBooneChickens@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago (23 children)

I'm not trying to get flamed as a lib here, but there's a gulf of difference between "not wanting to expand the war" and "having no further ambition once the war is over"

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 1 week ago (21 children)

There is no indication that Russia has any military ambitions past Ukraine, and it's pretty clear that Russia tried very hard to prevent the situation in Ukraine from devolving into a war.

[–] TBooneChickens@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm not arguing either of these points, I'm just pointing out that all NYT is saying here is that US officials have always believed that Russia wants this war to stay contained to Ukraine. Not that they think Russia didn't want this war or that Russia doesn't have other interests it will pursue external to this war.

All I'm saying is NYT didn't really reveal anything here.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There are plenty of people running around saying that once Russia wins in Ukraine than it's going to go on a conquest of Europe. This has been one of the major justifications for continuing the war lately.

[–] TBooneChickens@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's true, but that does imply that this war would conclude first. Which is consistent with saying Russia does not want this conflict to expand beyond Ukraine.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 week ago
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