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[–] Zeoic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In canada, Shaw is one that glaringly and repeatedly violates Canadian Personal Privacy laws, in fact, nearly every ISP does so with only a few exceptions. Nothing usually happens to them, and if it does its just a small slap on the wrist. Its cost of doing business to them.

In canada at the very least, an order like that from the government to a CA wouldn't even be lawful. Just have to hope the CA has decent lawyers..

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That sounds like some bs personal protection law meant to appease the proles. We're talking actual criminal law, federal crime stuff, stuff governments care about like IP violations, tax evasion or theft/murder at scale.

If an ISP or a CA protected guilty criminals in this manner such as by not issuing a cert to the FBI when they want one, it would be considered an accomplice and get stormed by the police.

[–] Zeoic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I think you may have gotten confused at some point in this comment chain.. That is not what we were talking about at all.

The OP was about an ISP (not a Government) trying to get a CA to give them a copy of a cert so they could setup a fake version of a website to deploy malware. In no point of this comment chain are we talking about any government agencies forcing a CA to give them a cert.

If an ISP, with no legal backing (because they are not the government) get a CA to give them a cert, and the CA does it, that CA if discovered would very much lose any reputation it had and people will no longer trust it, thus ruining the company.

My reply was pointing out how any law that allowed an ISP to gain a cert from a CA would clearly be insane, and if a CA rolled over instead of fighting it, nobody would trust them with their certs anymore.

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago

No bro I think you're confused, the topic for the comment chain was set here: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/11568788

Re-read this and hopefully you'll understand. Peace sir. 🙏