this post was submitted on 14 Aug 2023
56 points (93.8% liked)

Europe

8324 readers
2 users here now

News/Interesting Stories/Beautiful Pictures from Europe ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ

(Current banner: Thunder mountain, Germany, ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช ) Feel free to post submissions for banner pictures

Rules

(This list is obviously incomplete, but it will get expanded when necessary)

  1. Be nice to each other (e.g. No direct insults against each other);
  2. No racism, antisemitism, dehumanisation of minorities or glorification of National Socialism allowed;
  3. No posts linking to mis-information funded by foreign states or billionaires.

Also check out !yurop@lemm.ee

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

First of all, let's try to avoid American-bashing, and stay respectful to everyone.

I'll start: for me it's the tipping culture. Especially nowadays, with the recent post on !mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world with the 40% tip, it just seems so weird to me to have to pay extra just so that menu prices can stay low.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[โ€“] JRaccoon@discuss.tchncs.de 28 points 11 months ago (9 children)

The expectation of everyone having a credit card as soon as they can get one and paying everything with credit to somehow "build" credit. Sounds such a great way to get people into financial trouble at a young age.

[โ€“] donuts@kbin.social 0 points 11 months ago (6 children)

On the flip side, without establishing some kind of credit record, nobody will ever give you a loan for a house or even a used car.

[โ€“] JRaccoon@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 11 months ago (5 children)

That's the part I don't get at all. How come is not having any credit history a bad indicator? If anything, it should tell that the person is financially stable to afford things without needing credit.

Where I live (and I think in other European countries too, with exceptions) it works other way around. Having a clean credit record is a good thing and only if you neglect your payments you get negative marks on your record. Having any negative marks generally prevents you from taking any new loans or financing (a good thing!) but negative marks will be cleared after debts have been paid off and some time has passed.

[โ€“] FishInABarrel@kbin.social 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Consider two potential creditors:

  • Person A has no credit history at all.
  • Person B has had a credit card with a $20k limit for ten years, generally has a balance of less than $2k, and has never missed a payment.

Can you see how B is a less risky client than A? A is essentially an unknown risk, but B has demonstrated the ability to manage their debt. A could still get, for instance, a car loan, but likely not a mortgage. And B will get a lower interest rate.

[โ€“] glasgitarrewelt@feddit.de 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Dept is fascinating, our system seems to be build around it. And still, I was raised with 'Don't spend money you don't have' which makes person A more trustworthy to me compared to person B, who seems to live a financially risky life. But of course the bank earns more with person B, paying interest. I would reward this behavior as well, but it's not the kindest system for gullible people.

[โ€“] Don_alForno@feddit.de 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How is A an unknown? They've demonstrated that they don't make a habit of spending money they don't have, which most people would consider conservative and responsible.

[โ€“] SpiderShoeCult@sopuli.xyz 1 points 11 months ago

I agree that credit scores are stupid, but for the purpose of playing the devil's advocate... Person A may have just crawled out from under a rock (or their parents' money) and knows not how to manage a credit or just thinks it's free money. They'd still have no credit history. For risk assessments, you always take the worst case in all fields where it applies, not just financial.

On the other hand, I think that if your circumstances change and you manage to pay off a loan early, you get penalized on your credit score, cause some bank had plans for your interest for the next 30 years or something.

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (4 replies)