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[–] dgerard@awful.systems 21 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Go check your privacy settings in Firefox - they've switched on sending data to advertisers by default as of Firefox 128. Even Google sent this setting out default off, probably having spoken to an actual lawyer who mentioned the GDPR.

[–] mii@awful.systems 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Sounds like a good idea to piss off your primary user base, because at this stage I feel the only people singing Firefox's praise are privacy advocates who won't touch Chrome & friends with a ten-foot pole.

(I have the feeling that this comes from the same shithead who pushed to include spicy autocomplete in Firefox.)

It's also enabled in the dev builds, by the way. I just checked.

[–] self@awful.systems 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

(I have the feeling that this comes from the same shithead who pushed to include spicy autocomplete in Firefox.)

it definitely reads like the same shithead, but I’ve had them blocked on mastodon for some time so I can’t say for sure if it was for rampant LLMery or for doing the “without advertising the modern web would die and you don’t want that do you” thing advertisers do constantly

[–] mii@awful.systems 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Lol what an absolute tool. That’s the same shit the marketing bozos at my job say when I inform them that, no, I can’t auto opt-in our customers into whatever stupid Facebook ad campaign they’re pushing this week because it’s literally against the GDPR and our privacy laws.

But I guess that’s the logical next step if your whole business model depends on ~~lazy~~ deceiving people into clicking the button with the flashiest color in the cookie popup without reading the label.

P.S. the modern web can die in a fucking fire.

[–] mawhrin@awful.systems 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

this is not people's laziness; it's that the practice is deceptive. don't reinforce the business narrative.

[–] mii@awful.systems 7 points 3 months ago

Fair point, you’re right.

[–] self@awful.systems 7 points 3 months ago

and because it feels like it’s worth screaming this into the void in case there’s any marketing assholes reading: fuck yes I’m here to kill the modern web

[–] mawhrin@awful.systems 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

this is quite infuriating, i had a number of mozilla/firefox people telling me that this feature wouldn't work with opt-in (it's bullshit though) because too few users would enable it, and neither fucker asked himself : “wait, if we're afraid we can't convince our user base to buy-in, perhaps we shouldn't develop the feature?”

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Well, I needed an excuse to use Supermium - no better excuse than this.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don't really know if any chromium-based options are a real solution - there's so much code in there that a lot of times won't get caught (cf. brave etc for this very thing), and goog is actively working to push their own agenda and they have a lot more dev-hours than anyone else to churn shit out

ladybird and servo seem like the most promising alternative paths right now, and ladybird less so because chuds -_-

[–] sinedpick@awful.systems 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Ladybird isn't going anywhere. The web standards move too fast and they're not going to be able to catch up. I wish it was another way, but there's no way a couple of million $ is going to move the needle here when (probably) tens of billions have been poured into chromium/FF.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

also it looks likely to have other possible problems

[–] sinedpick@awful.systems 5 points 3 months ago

oof. Something tells me he's a good guy and just knee-jerked that response without thinking about it. But then I realize it doesn't matter because the kind of community you create doesn't depend on who you are deep down but what you say publicly.

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Update - Ended up jumping ship to Librewolf, since I just didn't like the feel of Chromium.

I was contemplating going back to Firefox, but then I accidentally wiped my entire profile whilst trying to transfer over my browser history and went "fuck it, I'm sticking with Libre".