Ita crazy how most every post I come across expecting to see people fighting underneath it is posted by this person. It seems they're only here to cause unrest.

[–] welldraught@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If you prefer to see posts and comments which only regurgitate one single opinion, literally all other social networks are better at that. Lemmy is not a good pick for the echo chambers. Reddit for example seems to have single orthodoxy on the Ukraine war.

[–] UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Ok yeah but this dudes whole gimmick is posting unpopular opinions without ever seeing the other side. I get having a differing opinion here and there but when you're whole personality is just 'what everyone else thinks is wrong' is crazy to me. I genuinely have never seen this person post something the majority agrees with.

Granted I've never just went through his profile, but when I go through my feed and see a post that's trying to stir up people, 90% of the time it's Y

[–] welldraught@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I agree that these opinions seem unpopular. But I am not sure if they are. Most people oppose war and even in the Ukrainian war, they support some realistic way of stopping it. Its the job of popular media to make sure that these people feel alone in their opinion and that they believe that most hate the other side. Then there seems to be popular support and funding of the war effort. Good read that you might already know is Manufacturing consent by Noam Chomsky. The sole reason I'm on lemmy is because it still has some realistic community, unlike other sites which just have bots spamming the 'popular' opinion. For example where I'm from the correct opinion is to support Israel in all its efforts against Gaza. If one were to read the comments on common articles, which are trying to apologize or shift the blame to others for Israeli war crimes, he would find very strong hate of the clear victims. Yet Ukrainians, all not just the victims, have almost ideological support here. Again something found in Chomskys book regarding unworthy victims.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

What counts as a "majority?" If you mean the majority of sh.itjust.works users, then no, Communist opinions aren't going to be popular. Lemmy.world? No. Outside of instances that are generally right-leaning? Depends, but usually more people agree than not.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yogthos is a Communist that tends to post Agitprop, yes. The goal isn't the unrest, but the outcome of that unrest.

[–] VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works -4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Chsos where fascist dictators rule? That sounds even worse tbh.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I said "Communist," not "fascist."

[–] VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yes people often call themselves communist or similar while supporting fascist dictatorships and the like, makes it easier to say.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Do they? Outside of MAGA Communists and PatSocs, I don't believe there are many, if any, Communists supporting fascist dictatorships. Historically, it's the opposite, Communists have gone to war with fascists.

Edit: oh, you're projecting, you're a fascist:

"I hope hamas can be defeated and the people of Palestine can be free from their oppression and propaganda. I was brought up being told it's the job of the strong to protect the weak and we can't fool ourselves into being tolerant to the intolerant. Its hard making difficult choices especially against enemies who use human shields and lies but the IDF are making the area a better place so history will respect them regardless of what agents and fools say now."

Supporting the genocide of 180,000 Palestinians and saying that genocide is "making Palestine a better place" is absolutely monstrous. Checks out for a sh.itjust.works user though.

[+] VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I think you genuinely believe this person is a honest hearted communist hoping for a better world for the working people, that's hilarious and kinda cute.

OP is a Marxist, and has consistently demonstrated Marxist analysis and advocacy for Marxism.

And yeah of course you would take the most basic and naively idealistic understand of the Middle East situation and push it like there's no other possible understanding. That's when the cuteness wears off and people start to roll their eyes

The Genocide of Palestinians by the fascist IDF has a long and complicated history, yes. Your open support for fascism and genocide, and pushing propaganda like the "Human Shields" narrative to justify the mass slaughterings and tortures of Palestinian civilians is about as on-the-nose as you can get. Assuming me calling you out for your vocal and enthusiastic support for genocide means I am simply "naiive" and oversimplifying a complex situation when 180,000 Palestinians lay dead from the forces you support is dodging and cowardice.

[–] tiredturtle@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They do justify a lot of anti-communism for an assumed Marxist. US and Israel fascism is clear, it's the rest they seem to have apologia towards.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What do you mean, genuinely? Do you know their stances?

[–] tiredturtle@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Tbh the flip flopping and counter effective comments do make the stances unclear

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

Can you give an example?