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[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 102 points 2 months ago (25 children)

Listen, everyone. It's so simple. We just need a neutral word to describe people who are not trans. Okay, the prefix "trans" is Latin for across, so the Latin word for not across is… you're not going to believe this.

[–] syreus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (18 children)

So It's hard to get into the headspace where I could get offended by being called cis but I'll try. Here is a metaphor that hopefully won't be too offensive.

Imagine if vegetarians started identifying non-vegetarians en masse with the label "Omnivores". The first critique would likely be, "But it's normal for humans to be omnivores; It's the neutral state!". That's how most people, including many allies, feel about being cis. It's the neutral state to them and doesn't/shouldn't require a label.

Obviously context matters but I can see how inflection could make it sound like a slight if someone is already loaded with insecurities.

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike 2 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Imagine if vegetarians started identifying non-vegetarians en masse with the label “Omnivores”. The first critique would likely be, “But it’s normal for humans to be omnivores; It’s the neutral state!”

I don't see the problem. Non-vegatarians/vegans are already called omnivores and it doesn't seem to be a problem. I wouldn't expect them to go out of their way to label themselves as such unless they were saying something like "I'm an omniVore" as a Vore joke. Carnists is the term that's used to be derogatory (although I think some weirdos who like to define themselves in opposition to vegans do call themselves that?). Likewise, "cissies" is a derogatory way to refer to the cis, but "cis" is just the neutral word used describe them. I wouldn't expect people to go out of their way to proclaim their cisness, but getting upset that the term exists and people use it is mostly just a bit.

[–] syreus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We spend immense effort getting the world to listen and allow us to be identified by how We wish to be identified. To flip the script and say we get to determine how others are identified unapologetically does not parse.

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If someone wanted to identify their pronouns as "fuck n******", I'm never going to respect their label or the person as a whole. If you make your whole identity about hating others, then you deserve to either totally ignored or mocked.

[–] syreus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

That sort of situation is the exception, not the rule.

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