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Plz can someone ELi5, how the hell being member of one of those communities "supposed" to provide assistance to access copyrighted/pirated material, can be harmful to lemmy.world if al what I'm doing is to be subscribed to their communites via my current account to be able to interact to posts there while i'm of course respecting their rules. It's like, hey you tolerate illegal immigration, so i'm banning you from visiting my city.
Federation more or less means the info is copied, so from a dcma standpoint the instance is still liable. If content is deleted from the main instance, it doesn't always delet from a federated one.
This would de different if you could proxy instead of copy the data on federation.
But the supposed discussion which can lay to be illegal isn't hosted on their instance, how this can affect them !? In my opinion, all this is a bullshit, and what they want is more direct subscribers to lemmy.world...
Technically it is, as someone else mentioned, text is copied on federation, this means is you as an admin need to actively moderate instances you federate with that may cause you issues in a legal standpoint whether correct or not. Facebook etc have rights that means you're not liable for user content, you as an individual instance admin however would need to fight for those rights.
Sure it's a rubbish thing they did but I also understand it completely.
A copy of that discussion is hosted on lemmy.world. In fact, all content from other instances on lemmy.world is in fact just a copy hosted on lemmy.world. That is how federation works. If a post that breaks the laws lemmy.world is subjected to, is federated to lemmy.world, lemmy.world will automatically create a copy of that post and make it available to all its visitors. By law, lemmy.world is hosting illegal content. This is a fubxamental design flaw with Lemmy and Mastoson, or the ActivityPub peotocol, that needs to be adressed by the developers, if instance admins are to be sure that they are not breaking laws by federating.