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Conservative Bots and Bad Actors Are Swarming R/Millenials Right Now (www.reddit.com)

submitted 3 months ago by mecfs@lemmy.world to c/astroturfing@lemmy.world

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/17793163

It's unbelievable how vocal the minority of conservatives on reddit have suddenly gotten in the one sub where a large demographic of important voters often interact. Hmmm. Coincidence?

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[–] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Well, I do understand your logic at least even though I'm not exactly convinced about the mechanics.

Edit: non-native English speaker here, halp, "convinced about" or "convinced of"?

[–] Firefly7@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 months ago

I think “convinced of” is more correct, but both phrases work. Could also say “convinced on”.

[–] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 2 points 3 months ago

And i want to clarify I’m not saying spam shit posts, but spamming actual information, articles and actual good content is precisely an equivalent fight to combat flooding propaganda, and a pretty benign one at that when you look at more extreme gorilla tactics

[–] DarkNightoftheSoul@mander.xyz 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

of is more common, but both are grammar.

[–] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Ah I somehow had the impression that there was some sort of subtle difference between convinced of/about. Thanks

[–] DarkNightoftheSoul@mander.xyz 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

there is a difference, and youre right, its subtle. subtle enough thtat at this level of discussion, with the context provided, no one could mistake your meaning either way.

since you seem to be curious, "convinced of" refers definitely to being fully persuaded by the relevant subject. look up the dictionary definition of "of" and youll find a bunch of use cases, many of which particularize or otherwise specify something that follows.

"convinced about" is still definite about the conviction, but the word about makes the subject of conviction connotatively less particular. about means something approximate, similar (or perhaps similar enough), or nearby. otoh, it has a perfecty valid use, as in the case in which you used it just now, as a specifying preposition.

They both work, theyre both grammar. "not sure about" is more common than "not sure of". "not convinced of" is more common than "not convinced about". i leave it as an exercise to the reader to puzzle out why that might be.