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Learning Russian (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 3 months ago by pnwml@lemmygrad.ml to c/comradeship@lemmygrad.ml

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Привет! I'm currently learning Russian as a native English speaker. I've only been at it for a few weeks but I feel like I've gotten some of the basics down.

Anyone who is more knowledgeable than me, how do I reliably learn which to use from ц, ч, с, щ, or ш?

Also when speaking long words 10+ characters or 4+ syllables long I feel myself triping over my tongue. Moreso than my previous experience with learning German but it has been over a decade since then.

Additionally, anyone else learning a second or third language and hows it going for you?

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[–] DeHuq2@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Try to repeat these letters from youtube videos.

'c' is just an 's', 'ч' is 'ch', 'ц' is a bit trickier than 'ч' because you might be unfamiliar with pronouncing 'ts' as a single sound and not just as 't' and 's'. 'ш/щ' are the hardest consonants to learn because they sound very similar to one another and are essentially just hard/soft version of the same letter that was split into two separate ones, its best to hold off figuring them out until you get palatalization down.

Try to break long words down to syllables and pronounce them separately. Endings often make up 30% of the word and are pretty repetitive, so if you get those down pronouncing the whole word will be easy. Most scary long words are just two words in a trench coat, you just have to recognize them for what they are.

I've been learning chinese a little as a third language, i'm not far in it at all but it has been fun seeing random chinese comments and vaguely getting the idea of what they were talking about.

Also consider this your exam: pronounce защищающаяся (zashchishchayushchayasya) correctly. Unfortunately it is just one word without a trench coat.

[–] pnwml@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 3 months ago (4 children)

That makes sense. I've been meaning to add phonetics to my flash cards to assist with longer words, здравствуйте has been the hardest to pronounce so far but защищающаяся seems alot worse. I'll definitely start trying to pronounce it today though.

And being able to get at least an idea of what people are discussing online is really fun. On YouTube I'll sometimes use random Russian comments as flash cards if they're short enough.

Thank you!

[–] DeHuq2@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Защищающаяся is kinda a meme word so don't be intimidated from learning russian, there aren't a lot of words like that. You can also leave the first 'v' in здравствуйте silent.

[–] pnwml@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Dropping the first в helps alot. Because trying to 'v' right before going into a 'st' was tongue tieing me really bad

[–] KlargDeThaym@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 3 months ago

To be honest, we Russian native speakers drop "v" there pretty often too.

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