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The Israeli parliament gave preliminary approval on Monday to a bill that declares the main United Nations relief organisation for Palestinians a terrorist organisation and proposes to sever relations with the body, Reuters reports.

The vote against the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestinian Refugees (UNRWA) is the latest step in an Israeli push against the Agency, which Israeli leaders have accused of collaborating with the Hamas Movement in Gaza.

Israel has said hundreds of UNRWA staff are members of terrorist groups, including Hamas and Islamic Jihad, but has yet to provide evidence to a UN-appointed review.

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[–] gnuhaut@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yes they do. Even if they didn't that excuses nothing about what Israel is doing.

And I guess by your Zionist logic no country has any sovereignty if anybody but themselves controls both sides of the border, which checks out since that's also how Israel seems to think borders work.

[–] kamenoko@sh.itjust.works -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So Sephardic Jews exist, not all of them were displaced by the Romans. So your reckless use of the term "Zionist" actually erases one of the oldest continuously existing "western" cultures we have. Greeks? Come and gone, Babylonian rule, sure no problem. Romans? Pretty shitty but whatever. And on and on for the better part of 3000 years.

But do go on about colonialism in literally the oldest confirmed region of human settlement we have outside Eastern Africa.

[–] gnuhaut@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Wait do you reply to everyone using the term Zionist with that? Because that's some random tangent if I've ever seen one, triggered by a single word. Good derailing tactic though, you completely changed the subject.

I'm not even sure what your point is. Are you confused about what Zionism is? Because that's funny for a Zionist to be confused about. It means you support the existence of a Jewish-supremacist state, and it's a 19th century nationalist idea from Europe. So whatever you're on about is irrelevant. I'm calling you a Zionist, since you clearly support Israel or you wouldn't be taking the time to spread incorrect bullshit in defense of the IDF here.

Maybe you're confused about my comment. Let me explain. You said:

So the IDF controls the border between Gaza and Egypt? You should let Egypt know their border isn’t sovereign anymore.

Egypt controls Egypt's side of the border. Israel controls the Gaza side, what with them occupying it. Since that should be pretty obvious, it sounds like you think Egypt, in order to be sovereign, needs to control both sides the border, i.e. invade Gaza.

Which is funny to me, because that obviously defeats the whole purpose of a border. So I'm imaging you as a person who thinks the whole point of a border is that both sides should be controlled by the same state, since that's how Israel does it, and you being a Zionist, you think that's the normal way a border works. So "Zionist logic". This is a funny thought, a person so brainwashed they don't understand that borders are not like a checkpoint between Israel and the West Bank. There, you made me explain the joke.

[–] kamenoko@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 months ago

I'm sorry, I was attempting to make a larger point about the conflict in general. There's this idea that Zionism is a homogeneous idea or that the Jewish people are a singular group of people when in fact they have more divisions within their own culture than anyone else. It's really easy to vilify a caricature or incomplete image of a race or ethnicity which is what I've seen in these discussions up to this point.