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[...] I announce that our move off of wlroots is now complete and MR 6608 is now merged.

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[–] earth_walker@lemmy.world 113 points 1 month ago (24 children)

In other words, Vaxry is so unwilling to compromise or learn from others that he would rather isolate his project from the broader FOSS community. That says a lot about him and the people who support him, especially since this conflict with freedesktop.org started over Vaxry condoning hateful trolling of trans people within the Hyprland community.

This is a problem for me as a Hyprland user because if I share some rice I made or make suggestions for other users, I'm leading people into a community that may be actively hateful towards them. It utterly extinguishes any enthusiasm I have for the project. I like the software but I'd rather be part of a project and a community that I can feel good and excited about. Maybe time to find a new tiling Wayland compositor.

[–] Quackdoc@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Wrong. This was originally technically motivated as hyprland had been limited by wlroots in the past and often had different update cycles from sway causing packaging issues.

Vaxry never condoned hateful trolling of trans people. In fact, he publicly acknowledged, and apologized for the lack of moderation that lead to the incident, said he would do better, DID better, and THEN after everything had blown over FDO tried to ego butt into his server even more.

[–] earth_walker@lemmy.world 37 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I'll quote Vaxry from his blog:

"Obviously, the fact that I am banned from contributing to Freedesktop - and by extension wlroots, is another big factor, and probably the one that finally tipped the scales, because I am no longer allowed to participate in discussion or contribute code to wlroots."

https://blog.vaxry.net/articles/2024-wlrootsRewrite

"I definitely am not a fan of how seemingly weak people online, especially teenagers, have become. Words are just words. Someone calling another person a "retard" shouldn't really be a big deal."

"I said:

if I run a discord server around cultivating tomatoes, I should not exclude people based on their political beliefs, unless they use my discord server to spread those views. which means even if they are literally adolf hitler, I shouldn't care, as long as they don't post about gassing people on my server

that is inclusivity

Which I definitely stand by."

https://blog.vaxry.net/articles/2023-inclusiveActivists

[–] Quackdoc@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

is another big factor, and probably the one that finally tipped the scales

means that it is not the sole motivating factor.

which means even if they are literally adolf hitler, I shouldn’t care, as long as they don’t post about gassing people on my server

Literally means that if they go around spewing crap, they get dealt with. This is not condoning hateful trolling at all. He is on the free speech side of things, but that doesn't mean he condones it at all. If you start posting bad crap, you get dealt with. Minor slights, are as the name implies, minor. Those are allowed but within strict limitations, if you start going full blown idiot, you get dealt with.

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