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[–] adroidBalloon@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

A referendum to either become a state or remain a territory is not relevant to the question of the occupation.

only because you’ve moved the goalposts when you couldn’t win that argument with facts.

People were never given a choice of independence

the people always ave that choice. they can protest, revolt, etc. Did the Bolsheviks just ask the Tsars to pretty please step aside?

Seems that you’re intentionally arguing in bad faith here.

I’m not the one ignoring facts, employing logical fallacies and hurling personal insults when I don’t “win” online arguments.

Clearly you’re a much bigger idiot than I thought you were.

can’t argue with facts, so playskool insults it is. classy. no wonder I see he molding full of you getting posts and comments removed, and you’re totally banned form lemmy.world.

also explains this post https://lemmy.ml/post/2756876

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

only because you’ve moved the goalposts when you couldn’t win that argument with facts.

I didn't move any goal posts. I said Hawaii is an occupied territory, and you came back with BuT ThEy HaD a RefErEnduM. Forgetting to mention that the referendum wasn't actually about independence and that the people of Hawaii were never given a choice of independence by their occupiers.

There is no false dichotomy here. It's hilarious seeing your comment history where you communicate through memes like a 5 year old child.

the people always ave that choice. they can protest, revolt, etc. Did the Bolsheviks just ask the Tsars to pretty please step aside?

People in Hawaii are revolting against your regime as we speak.

The facts are that you made false claim and now you don't even have the decency to admit it. No point having further discussion with a liar.

also explains this post https://lemmy.ml/post/2756876

love living rent free in your collective heads

[–] adroidBalloon@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I didn’t move any goal posts.

“nuh-uh!” isn’t a very convincing argument. most people learn this when they’re 5.

There is no false dichotomy here.

see my previous reply

People in Hawaii are revolting against your regime as we speak.

a handful of protesters is hardly a “revolt”, but you’re adorable for thinking “big”.

The facts are

the last thing you have is a grasp on the facts. your comment an post history are proof enough of that, with a long history of bans, deleted comments, and verbally being drummed you of most places you visit or being a toxic mess.

love living rent free in your collective heads

how sad for you

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

“nuh-uh!” isn’t a very convincing argument. most people learn this when they’re 5.

Amazing that @whiskeypickle@lemmy.ml, who is also a fan of those weird debate fallacy images, posted this in another thread today:

“nuh-uh” isn’t a convincing argument. most people learn this when they’re 5.

Also this, also from today:

“I know you are but what am I?” is not a convincing argument. most people learn this when they’re 5.

You also posted that second one, verbatim, this afternoon as @adroidBalloon@lemmy.ml.

You're the same person, aren't you?

Edit: Lol you even responded to an argument in this thread while still logged in to @whiskeypickle@lemmy.ml, then deleted it because someone noticed.

[–] glasschewer@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

lol i was just about to mention this

http://lemmy.ml/u/bauhaus

is clearly part of the same group of alt accounts.

@yogthos@lemmygrad.ml @yogthos@lemmy.ml Check this out lmao. I don't think all the traffic going to that threat of haters is organic man

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

@Rumblestiltskin@lemmy.ml @AgreeableLandscape@lemmy.ml

Sorry to bother you two, but it's pretty clear we have someone running maybe six different alts, and it looks like they're boosting each one with votes from the others. Is that allowed here? See the comment I'm replying to and the comment it replied to for evidence.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] glasschewer@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

I wish them a swift recovery from whatever this is exactly!!!

[–] adroidBalloon@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

it’s not amazing that I can copy and paste images I see in other comment threads. especially when they work well… I even say that’s what I did in several comments.

it’s sad that, rather than seeing that you’re wrong, you invent conspiracies, lmao. you’re not that important

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No one's buying it, you know that, right?

[–] adroidBalloon@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No one’s buying it, you know that, right?

Whhaaaa??? you mean to say that a brigading band of angry trolls from two of the most toxic instances in the fediverse remain unconvinced by facts and logic??? GASP!!

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No, I'm talking about the one angry troll pretending to be six different people who is being toxic in this thread.

That's you, since you seem to have trouble understanding things that aren't spelled out for you (or for that matter, things that are).

You're committing a strawman fallacy, or a false equivalence, or a false dichotomy, whatever, take your pick. You don't know the difference, anyway.

[–] adroidBalloon@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

No, I’m talking about the one angry troll pretending to be six different people who is being toxic in this thread.

right, because the only way some could disagree with or object to a brigade of angry trolls from hexbear is because of some “conspiracy” you can’t prove.

lol

You’re committing a strawman fallacy, or a false equivalence, or a false dichotomy, whatever, take your pick. You don’t know the difference, anyway.

“I know you are but what am I?” doesn’t make a convincing argument. most people learn that when they’re 5.

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No, you're right, it's much more likely that several different users are all doing the same "everything you say is a logical fallacy" shtick, using the exact same Philosophy 101 infographics for these alleged logical fallacies in their posts, all completely failing to understand the logical fallacies they're accusing others of committing, all using the same arguments verbatim, have all been active in the last five hours, all have comment scores that immediately shoot up to 7 after a few minutes, all have posts in the same Star Trek comm where one of the accounts just happens to be a mod, and are all acting like all around shithead trolls everywhere they go. Nope, clearly totally separate people, must be a conspiracy.

Again, no one's buying it.

Honestly I kind of pity you. How bad is your life that you have to sit here for hours on the internet with several different accounts just being a shithead everywhere and just keep arguing with people like a child? It's really pathetic. Get off the computer, go outside, go talk to people.

[–] adroidBalloon@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, you’re right, it’s much more likely that several different users are all doing the same “everything you say is a logical fallacy” shtick, using the exact same Philosophy 101 infographics for these alleged logical fallacies in their posts,

yeah, because google exists and copy/paste exist everywhere but on whatever planet you’re from. You guys should get on that.

it’s been my experience that bullies like to blame others for the consequences they face rather then accept them.

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

it’s been my experience that bullies like to blame others for the consequences they face rather then accept them.

Is that why you're still denying all of your alts?

Go ahead and take a few minutes to respond, I know you're engaged in several other discussions right now on your other accounts.

[–] adroidBalloon@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is that why you’re still denying all of your alts?

I’m very sorry for your troubles. just so you know, professional help is available in your area.

best of luck with that

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Come on, you can do better than that. What happened to all your infographics about random fallacies? Those are hilarious.

[–] adroidBalloon@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Come on, you can do better than that.

you’re free to troll someone else. all your bottled up rage has to go somewhere, right? it’s not like you know how to deal with it in a healthy way, or you wouldn’t be here proving that. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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[–] sharedburdens@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

yo, hit me an infographic for the 'ligma' fallacy if you have one.

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[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How about you shut the fuck up, on however many accounts you're running

[–] adroidBalloon@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

such hate, such anger, and not a very good imagination.

I’m glad I’m not you.

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't think about you at all

[–] whiskeypickle@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don’t think about you at all

lol, proven by your repeated angry replies.

edit: before you get your conspiracy hallucinations going, you posted a comment that pinged my notification, so I saw this thread.

[–] adroidBalloon@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago
[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

“nuh-uh!” isn’t a very convincing argument. most people learn this when they’re 5.

Do feel free to articulate which goal posts you're claiming that I moved. Be specific.

see my previous reply

I did, it's nonsensical.

a handful of protesters is hardly a “revolt”, but you’re adorable for thinking “big”.

Way to dismiss majority of the native population. I guess that's what you'd expect from racist occupiers.

the last thing you have is a grasp on the facts. your comment an post history are proof enough of that, with a long history of bans, deleted comments, and verbally being drummed you of most places you visit or being a toxic mess.

Wow interesting narrative you made up about me there. Maybe send me of whatever drugs you're having while hallucinating these things, cause that sounds like some good shit.

how sad for you

Nah, it's free entertainment for me kddio.

[–] adroidBalloon@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Do feel free to articulate which goal posts you’re claiming that I moved. Be specific.

I already have, in detail. sealioning as you last line of attack? boring…

I did, it’s nonsensical.

I’m not responsible for your lack of comprehension.

Way to dismiss majority of the native population.

Wow interesting narrative you made up about me there

anyone is free to look at your comment history or the modlogs. no drugs necessary. how like you to hurl insult - yet again - when confronted with facts you can’t refute.

Nah, it’s free entertainment for me kddio.

not very convincing….

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You have not done any such thing, but I guess lying is all you've been doing here, so that's par for the course.

[–] adroidBalloon@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You have not done any such thing

“nuh-uh!” isn’t a very convincing argument. most people learn this when they’re 5.

but I guess lying is all you’ve been doing here

“I know you are but what am I?” isn’t a very convincing argument. most people learn this when they’re 5.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] adroidBalloon@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Whatever you say colonizer.

ooo, more name-calling. still “entertained”? lmao

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You're literally defending why it's justified for US to occupy Hawaii in this thread colonizer. I'm very much entertained by you publicly debasing yourself here. Hope you made enough FICO score points to buy yourself food tonight.

[–] adroidBalloon@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

You’re literally defending why it’s justified for US to occupy Hawaii in this thread colonizer

I merely presented facts you didn’t like, so you’re lying about what I said (even though anyone can scroll up and see you’re lying and what I actually said) just because you have no argument other than to hurl insults.

I’m very much entertained by you publicly debasing yourself here.

then you’re experiencing hallucinations, as the facts don’t correspond to your experience.

Hope you made enough FICO score points to buy yourself food tonight.

whatever that means…. I buy food with money I earn from work.

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[–] TremblingTelepath@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

You'd think people would at least have the decency to keep their mouth shut right now.

I mean Biden only offered them like $700. Who knows when they'll get that, if at all!