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[–] EnsignRedshirt@hexbear.net 17 points 5 months ago (7 children)

As I understand it, replacing a VP nominee is doable, but tricky. Legally, Vance would have to resign voluntarily (or "voluntarily"); I don't think Trump or the party can unilaterally decide to fire him at this stage according to party rules. Even if he does resign, there's probably a bunch of logistical hurdles and potential setbacks associated with changing the nominee this late in the game. Point being, Vance is undoubtedly an albatross, but replacing him would create problems of its own. Trump has probably already talked about replacing him, and the party is likely doing the political math on whether it would be worth doing, and how to go about doing it.

At the end of the day, Vance was a big own-goal for Trump, even if he does get replaced. The GOP doesn't have a particularly deep bench at the moment, but I have to imagine there were better options.

[–] LanyrdSkynrd@hexbear.net 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Doesn't the party make the rules? The DNC was able to make a rule change at the Nevada caucuses on a voice vote and despite it being clear the vote didn't pass, the chair ruled that it did.

Ultimately I think VP's rarely ever matter. Maybe in a rare instance where a VP has an amazing reputation in their home state it energizes some voters who would have otherwise stayed home, but nobody is not voting because a pres has a bad VP.

[–] unmagical@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 months ago

Ultimately I think VP's rarely ever matter.

This is true, and if Harris wins neither VP pick will matter much at all. But if Trump wins there's a decent chance his VP pick ends up as President.

[–] EnsignRedshirt@hexbear.net 2 points 5 months ago

The rules can be ignored, but the rules do exist. Legality only ever matters to the extent that anyone enforces it, but breaking rules doesn't make you look good, and donors may not be excited about supporting an organization that won't enforce its own rules. If they do want to replace Vance, they'll pressure him behind closed doors to resign, not make it a spectacle. I'm just pointing out that if Trump could openly fire him, he'd probably have done it already because Vance is making him look bad.

I agree that whether the VP matters is very questionable. Bottom line is that if they think Vance is enough of an election liability, they'll get rid of him, but it's entirely possible that it won't make much difference either way.

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