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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

This is one of those things where Valve actually actively sucks and is actively ignoring a growing problem because the old game just isn't profitable anymore.

Expect this to get zero interest or time spent on it from Valve because they're knee-deep in trying to release a Hero Shooter (rolls eyes).

I have a lot of respect for Valve, but situations like this really need to make people step back and question how much Valve care about the community that uses the Steam service, or do they really care more about how much money they make?

The fact that they keep creating micro-transactions for a game that's been completely taken over by bots says "They don't give a shit, they just want the money."

Thanks for coming to my TED Talk. Let's not let Valve get away with shit just because they're "good guys" compared to other businesses.

Anti-consumer is anti-consumer is anti-consumer. Valve doesn't get a pass for being Valve.

EDIT: To be clear, I understand that they aren't required to keep supporting a nearly-two-decade-old game, but letting it become a place where outright abuse happens is a different story. If you can't control the abuse and you don't want to do anything about it: do the thing nobody will like but will solve the problem: kill the damn game already if you don't want to support it. That's what I expect to happen before they face this issue, they'll shut down official servers and make the game unavailable before they try to solve the bot problem for a game so old. Valve has made it clear for years that they don't listen to or give a flying fuck about the TF2 community.

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

If you can't control the abuse and you don't want to do anything about it: do the thing nobody will like but will solve the problem: kill the damn game already if you don't want to support it. That's what I expect to happen before they face this issue, they'll shut down official servers and make the game unavailable before they try to solve the bot problem for a game so old.

Nobody would benefit from that. There's literally a huge movement on right now to stop companies from doing exactly that with the Stop Killing Games initiative. It's far better for Valve to just announce the game is EOL and no longer receiving official support but to leave it in exactly its current state.

[–] simple@lemm.ee 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I know it's a serious situation and it sucks for anyone playing TF2, but every time someone brings it up I can't help but think about the video of the guy trying to kick a cheater and start laughing again

[–] Canadian_Cabinet@lemmy.ca 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] simple@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago

F1! F1! F1 PLEASE! PLEASEPLEASEPLEASE!

[–] cheddar@programming.dev 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Every time I hear about TF2, it has issues with bots. Which is sad. I don't play anymore, but obviously there are people why enjoy and love the game to this day.

[–] InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I haven't played TF2 in a while (before f2p?), my understanding is that community servers were mostly fine and how we're mostly on random casual games?

At least this game has a dedicated server option, contrary to the other TF2.

[–] pycorax@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

The other TF2 does have dedicated servers now though. Unofficial but it does and comes with mods.