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[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml 63 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Capitalists: Communism is when no phone

Communism:

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Damn I want a hammer phone now

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[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Lol, "socialism is when capitalism" strikes again

[–] drbluefall@toast.ooo 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Always gotta remember:

Ask a socialist why they hate capitalism and they'll give you a dozen reasons.

Ask a capitalist why they hate socialism and they'll describe capitalism.

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 7 points 1 year ago

Too fucking true, it hurts.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

Every accusation a confession. Anti-communist propaganda is projection all the way down

[–] tacosplease@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Prager U is Christian propaganda masquerading as a school. It's the opposite of a school.

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Christian propaganda approved by the state of Florida to teach in schools

[–] Iron_Lynx@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Christian conservative ancap propaganda to be more precise. The guy behind it was once recorded saying "Government is not the solution to our problems, government is the problem."

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Sure, now draw the stacks of coins to-scale, Prager-U, I dare you!

They're obviously taking advantage of the fact that the average person doesn't realize how wide the wealth inequality gap has gotten. Or, to put it another way, they don't realize how badly they've been, and continue to be, exploited by the rich and powerful...

[–] Kor@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Also look at the slight difference in body language. While all blue figures and the big red boss are visaulized authoritative and defiant with their hands on their hips, the equalized red figures all have slumping shoulders showing meekness. I bet even people not actively noting this will still subconciously be influenced by the negative body language of the "communists".

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[–] ekZepp@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago
[–] ZILtoid1991@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And when the capitalism resembles the lower one, then "it's not real capitalism", "we need shock therapy", "there's too much regulation", "um, ackchually, the rich person doesn't hate minorities, thus they're socialist", and so on...

Yep, all that stems from lack of class awareness and lack of the study of Marxism

[–] HornyOnMain@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Socialism is when the government does stuff and everyone is poor!
And when everyone has nothing, it's communism!

Robot rock starts playing

[–] axont@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Denis Prager and everyone who works for him should be arrested and then buried in a pit in the ground

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

"We have a pit at home"

[–] Dasnap@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

They made a graphic for it so it must be true!

[–] MrSangrief@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Why not both? Cheer

A socialist foundation where every member of society has guaranteed means of survival, maybe even thriving so we uplift ourselves as a society...combined with capitalisms incentive for innovation and ambition.

Imagine what people could do if they were not exhausted by surviving, three jobs, etc. Yes there would be leeches, but that is a minority and a worthwhile sacrifice.

[–] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Capitalist innovation is usually changing an existing product just enough to keep a patent or actually making something new but only if the government funds them so much they have zero risk. Most innovation comes from the public sector.

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[–] UltimateBlackComrade@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Socialism provides more innovation than capitalism. We would have the cure for cancer right now if profit incentive was not the drive of the economy, but to improve people’s lives.

Edit:

I suggest you to watch this video for about why combing both doesn’t work

and

this one

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yes we forgot how much tech has come from communist states. china totally invents it's own stuff and doesn't steal IP at all...and russia is the bastion of the science world...

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[–] Fazoo@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Quite the hot take. Make a claim, cherry pick one thing, and post a random YouTube video to back it.

Most of our tech comes from the military inventions of decades prior. Most of that from the US military and government. So if you think socialism would have brought GPS, cell phones, home computers, rocket technology, satellites, and more to the commercial market sooner... lol.

The entire factory industry, worldwide, uses the assembly line model invented by Ford, an American company. This system also brought prices down on cars, making them a staple of life rather than a luxury.

I won't disagree with the fact big pharma could do more, but not with the idea it would have more incentive under a socialist system.

[–] rah@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

satellites

Uh.. Sputnik?

to the commercial market

Why is the commercial market important?

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[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

https://tribunemag.co.uk/2020/08/how-capitalism-stifles-innovation

I would genuinely suggest examining with yourself why you feel the need to cling on to a system designed to require and encourage greed and exploitation to exist.

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[–] Snipe_AT@lemmy.atay.dev 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

ngl, I'll be pretty happy to slack off for the same results. /s

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