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[–] nuke@sh.itjust.works 69 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Less bloodshed... for us

Way way more bloodshed for you

[–] Shipgirlboy@sh.itjust.works 60 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The purpose of a soldier is not to die for his country, it is to make the other dumb bastards die for theirs.

[–] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

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[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Username rather pointedly relevant

[–] Zorque@kbin.social 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Pretty sure the blood gets vaporized before it can be shed.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 1 points 5 months ago

I think enhanced radiation weapons make for plenty of blood

[–] FireTower@lemmy.world 40 points 5 months ago

Maxim's inspiration:

“I was in Vienna, where I met an American whom I had known in the States,” Maxim told the Times of London. “He said: ‘Hang your chemistry and electricity! If you want to make a pile of money, invent something that will enable these Europeans to cut each other’s throats with greater facility.’ ”

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I doubt that this is even remotely accurate. Even the slightest bit of critical thinking quickly dismantles that "belief".

[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 45 points 5 months ago (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Jordan_Gatling#Gatling_gun

In 1877, he wrote, "It occurred to me that if I could invent a machine gun which could by its rapidity of fire, enable one man to do as much battle duty as a hundred, that it would, to a large extent supersede the necessity of large armies, and consequently, exposure to battle and disease would be greatly diminished."

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Why would he not realize that countries, generals, kings, and those in power would simply send more men to die? They will not send 2 guys with a machine gun and then simply accept that the battle was lost if their guy loses. No, they will send a million men, as many as are needed to take another foot of ground.

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 39 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Colonialism was super popular, so a couple of dudes with machine guns could mow down a field of natives with much less risk.

Plus a machine gun is much more impressive than some dudes with single fire guns. A platoon (or whatever fits on a boat or three) can be overrun. Throw a couple of machine guns in with a couple of brutal shows of force and you got yourself a colony.

WW1 was still a ways off and it wasn't really the target market for your Gatlings and Maxims.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's actually a really good point. He must have meant that fewer "civilized" soldiers would die.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 12 points 5 months ago

It's more likely he just didn't think of them at all.

[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 8 points 5 months ago

¯\_ (ツ)_/¯

He was clearly not a stupid man by any means, but definitely seems like he was naive.

[–] FireTower@lemmy.world 35 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's the cotton gin logic. Eli Whitney thought his invention the cotton gin would reduce the need for manual labor on cotton plantations and reduce slavery. Instead it made cotton farming more profitable and revitalized slavery.

[–] sushibowl@feddit.nl 5 points 5 months ago

I think this is an instance of Jevon's paradox.

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

He didn't said which side and how though, so the statement of "reducing number of soldier" could be true to the side using the gatling and also the side getting shot at.

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.de 8 points 5 months ago

Yeah, the first one starts with less and the second one ends up with les

[–] halvar@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

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