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[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What I make is that you're just not very bright

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Slippery slope fallacy = "These only vaguely connected things will lead to one another."

Pipeline = "This community has considerable overlap with another community, and participation in one is likely to lead to participation in the other."

[–] Kichae@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

When the slope is actually slippery, and you don't know what a fallacy is.

[–] obosob@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

A lot of people seem to not understand what a fallacy is. They think that if something is fallacious then it is necessarily false, which ironically is a fallacy in and of itself (the fallacy fallacy). All that a fallacy is is an argument that does not logically follow from the starting axioms and the conclusion. Slippery slopes are predictions, sometimes accurate ones, but it does not necessarily follow that some of a thing leads to more of that thing, thus it is a fallacy.

[–] Kichae@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Well, that's the thing, though. It's only a fallacy if it doesn't follow logically.

Not that it matters. Observed trends, such as radicalization pipelines, are not logical arguments, they're... observed trends. And suggesting that noticing those trends is actually engaging in a logical fallacy, as we see on display here, is just some bad faith cargo-cult no-you-ing.

[–] darcy@sh.itjust.works -4 points 1 year ago

its only slippery when its someone else slipping...

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

Is precedent different?

Ohh this one is Gina make people big mads.