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Hi all,

I'm seeing a lot of hate for capitalism here, and I'm wondering why that is and what the rationale behind it is. I'm pretty pro-capitalism myself, so I want to see the logic on the other side of the fence.

If this isn't the right forum for a political/economic discussion-- I'm happy to take this somewhere else.

Cheers!

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[–] Andiloor@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Idk people didn't ask for existence so why should they suddenly pay for it

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[–] pensivepangolin@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago
  1. Friends and family bankrupted by basic medical needs;
  2. Friends WITH medical insurance unable to afford basic medications like insulin or asthma control inhalers;
  3. The increased atomization of society has led to a collapse of community in most of my country: people don’t care about each other because they can’t because they don’t have the time or money;
  4. It has driven us and continues to drive us towards the complete collapse of the biological systems that sustain our planet at an ever increasing rate.

The only thing people can point and do point to is “oh but more people have more cheap commodities.” Great! At the expense of the common dignity of man and the ecosystems in which he depends, an ever smaller class of bloated egotists has gotten rich beyond comprehension while the rest of the world literally burns and melts in the name of increasing fortunes already beyond any and all conception of need. At the same time, the life of the average person is marked by degraded environments, exposures to industrial toxins, has their profession increasingly made precarious, has the cost of living increase while wages stagnate or shrink, and now is plagued by disasters directly resulting from the climate change a fossil carbon economy has caused.

What about any of that should I like? That I can eat a hamburger for $10 that is mostly ammonia-cleansed meat filler…?

[–] AergisGeist@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's easy to blame capitalism when you're an American who has never traveled to a country with strong social safety nets and checked capitalism. I also assume most people who call themselves communists aren't actually communists though, they just want stronger systems in America to help the poor (Healthcare, education, etc)

[–] cecinestpasunbot@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

The US used to have stronger social safety nets and they’ve been progressively eaten away at. It seems like the same process is happening in other countries with strong social safety nets. The riots in Paris over an increase is the retirement age is just one example. If you try to understand why that’s the trend it’s hard not to blame capitalism.

[–] TrivialBetaState@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 years ago

I don't get the same impression in my community. I'm pretty sure that we all love capitalism in "millionairs@lemmy.lm" What communities do you waste your time on?

[–] astral_avocado@programming.dev 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Because the ml in lemmy.ml stands for Marxist-Leninist, and this instance is populated mostly by a banned reddit community of pro-CCP Marxists. You should join a different instance.

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[–] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Because they've never seen well regulated Capitalism nor been educated on it as all we get in the US is Corporate propaganda on Capitalism to justify the hellscape the wealthy make the most money from.

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[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nothing substantial to contribute ... just wanted to say that I came in here expecting a shit show (maybe I've been on mastodon too much :) ) and am genuinely impressed to see a bunch of polite and good discussion, not least from the OP!!

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