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I don't fucking understand this country sometimes.
Thankfully we'll have a Labour government in a few days and this will be dropped instead of being continued through. Right......?
It’s not Corbyn labour, it’s Starmer labour, which is Tories lite TM.
I still remember well how the New Labour faction, in order to attack Corbyn, deemed him an anti-semite by association because in a conference he sat on a panel with a guy who compared the actions of Israel to those of the Nazis. Turns out said guy was a Jewish Holocaust survivor, so they they were saying that a Jewish Holocaust survivor was an anti-semite in order to slander Corbyn by association.
Also quite a lot of Israel-linked "Jewish" associations cooperated in that whole campaign of slandering Corbyn and Labour as "anti-semite" (remember how the Labour Party was said to have "many" anti-semites, and they turned out to be in a lower proportion than society in general and way less than the Tories) to bring Corbyn down and replace him with somebody from the New Labour faction, which succeeded.
The New Labour leadership has quite the debt to the Zionists for that, so don't expect them to be any less unwaveringly supportive of a genocidal ethno-Fascist Israel than the Tories - at best it's going to be like Biden in American: claim to want Bibi to stop all the while by action de facto supporting him.
We both know it won't.
The British state is controlled by Zionists. That includes the Labour party. That's the thing to understand.
That’s a new spin on “jEwS sEcReTlY rUlE eVeRyThInG”. There is, and has been, a Jewish population in British society throughout history - but this statement is unfounded at best, unhelpful anti-Semitic conspiracy at worst.
Please elaborate how Zionists “control the British state”
Both Sunak and Starmer are self proclaimed zionists, given that one of them is almost certainly going to become the new prime minister, how is it not?
Yes. Because they’re politicians who will have to maintain some kind of rapport or dialogue with Israel. Especially after Britain was so formative in the creation of Israel via Lord Balfour.
But it’s a huge jump to say that Zionists control Britain and/or the political class. Affinity for Israel, or deference to Israel would be more accurate
Zionists control the British political class. Your flailing around for excuses and weak rationalisations is sad at best and simple anti-semitism at worst.
Repeats unhelpful mantra, offers no explanation or evidence
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Ahhh I see this has been a waste of time trying to get an explanation.
You were given several explanations, you ignored them all. Please don't conflate Zionism with Judaism.
Every single Tory MP and most Labour MPs are members of the "Friends of Israel" lobby groups.
Lobbying groups. One of which advocates for a Palestinian state alongside Israel, which is essentially opposed to Likud policy.
lobbying, any attempt by individuals or private interest groups to influence the decisions of government; in its original meaning it referred to efforts to influence the votes of legislators, generally in the lobby outside the legislative chamber.
Again, that hardly meets the “controls British politics” argument. An unwarranted and potentially scandalous level of quid-pro-quo/ influence sure - but the Russian money and rot is more important to root out of British politics imo
He said Zionist not Jew. Zionist lobbies are quite powerful in western government
uks own citizens could go to jail for peacefully protesting but netayahu can commit genocide against the palestinians and get invited to the commons
Not surprising from a country that practiced genocide decades in the past and came out of it unscathed.
Keep being you Britain, and keep teaching the rest of the world about international law and humans rights, the global south can't see the hypocrisy.
Sorry our leaders suck.
I have a feeling it isn't just the leaders that are pro Israel in the UK. but it is just a feeling.
It's a segment of the voters too, yes. On the other hand, we also have a problem with genuine anti-semites. It's a shit-bed, and we have no place lecturing others.
This business of challenging the arrest warrants of people who are clearly war criminals is a particularly bad look.
Confusing why this is something that should happen.