I’ve loved Chrome (on windows) for many years but at this point when you open task manager it’s practically using up more resources than the operating system. Because it is. It’s essentially like running a second operating system…
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Great idea, Google should do that and call it like... Chrome O-- ChromOS, yeah that's it.
Exactly, should a web browser need to be a complete operating system, or can it just show you the damn internet? Feeling like a cranky old man here
A browser—any browser—does have to do most of what an operating system does. Every web page is an app and many of them are as complicated as desktop or mobile apps. Hell, a lot of them are full desktop apps—a lot of "native" desktop apps are just web apps running in a special browser window that lacks the usual browser UI.
You are, and you are right to be
There is this misconception of "using a lot of ram = bad", but memory is not like cpu or gpu cycles.
Unused memory is wasted memory. Chrome will use available memory to improve responsiveness. Primarily the memory use comes from keeping all open tabs in memory, so they are in the same state as you left them.
When the system runs low on ram, chrome will start discarding old tabs and giving back memory to other processes. Firefox does the same thing.
Also windows task manager is very inconsistent when it comes to memory usage. Right now it's telling me chromium is using 1.4gb for 47 tabs. And memory usage is a lot more complicated anyway.
Counter-point: Chrome brought multiple computers/laptops to a standstill, but Firefox doesn't. I used Chrome for years and just put up with it... But the lagging/slowness literally stopped when I switched. So while I'm sure you're right in theory, something about Google's implementation sucked on all the computers I used it on...
Switched to Firefox years ago and never looked back.
Oh look, it's the daily "Firefox outperforms Chrome" post...
EDIT: yesterday's post: https://lemmy.world/post/1779611
From the same user too... This account just spams articles to this community and never comments. Looks like an old reddit-style karma farmer
It’s literally a bot account.
Pretty sure it’s to feed content into the sub.
It's an historic day! Also within 24h Google starts floating DRM websites
More reasons to keep using Firefox just keep on coming up like excellent extensions, in-browser PDF editor, and now more speed. I switched to Firefox 2 years ago with uBO and I don't think I'd ever switch back to Chrome.
Not surprising, considering how bloated Chrome is.
Switched to Firefox and Bitwarden due to Lemmy feedback. Haven't looked back.
There is no way its the first time. Firefox has been faster for years.
This is huge. I'm actually starting to get optimistic about the future of the internet.
I always found Chrome really laggy and swapped it for Firefox because it seemed lighter and faster.
I love firefox. I love the freedom you have with the browser. I got vertical tabs and a good theme I'm happy.
As someone that recently moved from Chrome to Firefox, I can definitely confirm this.
I did to. Chrome is so bloated.
It's good to see this result replicated. The only thing I wish Firefox had natively was tab groups, they're a really useful feature for various organizing things. Otherwise, they're clearly one of not the best browser on the market.
funny thing actually: Firefox had tab-groups built in. They then decided to remove it as an builtin feature and offer it as an extension instead, but not long after, when they switched the extension system, the extension was no longer supported
It’s good to see this result replicated. The only thing I wish Firefox had natively was tab groups, they’re a really useful feature for various organizing things. Otherwise, they’re clearly one of not the best browser on the market.
Just use "Simple Tab Groups" extension. It's pretty good. And on top of that you can use other extensions, so that for example all tabs within a group automatically get added to a container (isolating them from other tabs). Really useful when shopping for stuff so advertisers can't track you around different shopping sites (or at least it makes it more difficult)
Try using the profiles functionality, it let's me separate my browsing and tabs for each client and personal stuff. Multiple profiles ftw
Firefox not having tab groups is the only reason I haven't switched over, once they do that I'll probably never use a chromium browser again.
On low end PCs, Firefox always outspend chrome, at least for me. I remember trying to play happy wheels on my think pad laptop back in the day and I would get low fps on chrome but never on Firefox. That experience is what made me switch to the superior browser.
Not surprising as Chrome has been getting more bloated all along. Then again, I personally use Vivaldi as Firefox doesn't have a built-in translator tool.
Vivaldi is chromium based, so it's pretty much chrome with a different UI.
Translator here. Beware of translation tools. It's fine for personal use and basic understanding but it's not up to the task for the translation of complex stuff or technical stuff. It's good at creating text that looks legit but can sometimes contain critical errors.
I once worked on a medical device and used machine translation to test it. The text was fine but some numbers were changed. This is a huge error.
It's weird that it's not built in but there is a Mozilla add-on for it to provide on-device translations https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/firefox-translations/
Not surprised. But Google Meet stalls on FF as does Streamyard. Probably a WebRTC bug
Everyone on Lemmy loves Firefox. Meanwhile I haven’t seen anyone talk about how good Arc is (in spite of being another chromium browser)
Who develops the Arc browser? Is it open source?
arc is developed by The Browser Company. its free, but I don’t believe it’s open source. its basically a UI layer on top of chromium so its performance is about what you would get out of Chrome.
If it's not open source and its tacked on to Chromium which is already bloated, why compare it to Firefox?
Dunno. I wasn’t the OP.