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Protestation (discuss.tchncs.de)

submitted 3 months ago by protestation@discuss.tchncs.de to c/communism@lemmy.ml

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[–] Wakmrow@hexbear.net 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Pretty sure this person is terrible and has terrible takes

[–] CyberMonkey404@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What makes them terrible in your opinion?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago

Midwestern Marx is run by PatSocs.

[–] asg101@hexbear.net 7 points 3 months ago

If capitalism is so inherently superior, why has it gone trillions of dollars in debt killing off the alternatives?

[+] Honytawk@lemmy.zip -6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Communism is as much of a Fairy Tale as the Free Market.

For exactly the same reasons.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What reasons are those, exactly? Vibes? Vague idealism?

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Nature, red in tooth and claw. The competitive drive is not uniquely human but it is human nature. Capitalism, for all its faults, tries to harness that nature for good. Every other system rests on an assumption of benevolence, either from the few (monarchies, dictatorships, oligarchies) or the many (communism, anarchies). History has shown that assumption to be a fatal mistake.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Nature, red in tooth and claw. The competitive drive is not uniquely human but it is human nature.

This is mostly unfounded. Humans are cooperative, by nature. The dominant ideas of society are largely driven by Mode of Production. Capitalism is competitive, ergo Liberalism is the dominant ideology, but this is only the case within the myopic frame of the last few centuries. Mode of Production has shifted with technological advancement, which has also shifted "Human Nature" with it.

Capitalism, for all its faults, tries to harness that nature for good.

Capitalism wasn't designed in a lab, but emerged out of feudalism. It doesn't "try" to do anything. Functionally, it services the maximization of profit, with little care for the wellbeing of society at large.

Every other system rests on an assumption of benevolence, either from the few (monarchies, dictatorships, oligarchies) or the many (communism, anarchies).

Incorrect, and unfounded. Please explain exactly why Communism rests on the assumption of benevolence, in any way, referring to the structures Communists wish to implement.

History has shown that assumption to be a fatal mistake.

More vague assertions, this time with the undertone that it is somehow ideas that drive history, and not Material Conditions. This is an anti-scientific, anti-Materialist assertion.