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I can't really think of a reason for that as Reddit is hated somewhat equally by "both" sides of the spectrum. It's just something I find interesting.

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[–] jerdle_lemmy@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Yeah, Reddit leans boringly mildly progressive, Lemmy leans communist.

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[–] lieuwex@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 year ago (9 children)

ITT: left = progressive and right = conservative

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[–] gullible@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The ultraconservatives already left for gab and truth social. There are some conservative instances and a few nazi ones as well, but the aforementioned two scooped up most of right wingers willing to jump ship.

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[–] Durpadurp@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I am a Nonist and hate reddit because of the cry baby and power tripping mods. Politics and political leaning doesn't exist in my internet life. For my old ass the internet is another world.

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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Well I strongly disagree with most of the communists so I just avoid lemmy.ml

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[–] Sotuanduso@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Whenever I see a political thread here, it seems like the comment section is dominated by the most extreme of the left, with takes like "All right wingers are part of the MAGA crowd and advocating genocide" and "The right wing is weak, stupid, evil, and dangerous so we need to shut it down."

As a centrist (not a rightist,) I don't like this. We need rational discourse, not extremism and hate. Actually talk with reasonable people from outside your political circle please. (Reasonable people, not the right wing extremists that seem to be the only right-wingers y'all hear about.) Remember when we actually had a class struggle that made the people in power nervous instead of identity politics that get the working class fighting each other?

But then, most of the places I talk in are pretty politically left-leaning, so I guess being a centrist does make me look right-wing to a lot of people. I'm rarely seen pushing back against right-wing ideas, but that's because I rarely see right-wing ideas being presented (outside of leftists pointing at rightist ridiculousness) to push back against. That probably has to do with the internet as a whole leaning more left than right.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Centrism is the politics of thinking you're the rational party, but then you just side with status quo neoliberalism. Like seriously? Rational discourse and debate? Homie, that ship sailed with Reagan.

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[–] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I am not that leftist.

[–] AngryBear@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Considering I just got “permanently suspended” for making a bad joke on WTF, no appeal possible (nobody replies), Lemmy seems more fair. As getting banned for the entire site, so to speak, is really unlikely if not impractical versus Reddit where if one mod doesn’t like you, if left leaning (and they are all left wing fascists basically) you are F’ed.

Reddit is super left wing, Lemmy is too small (now) to compare or make any comparison to which is “worse”, so it can only be better right now.

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

Well, there's a self-proclaimed Left which, though probably having started out with good intentions, is all about "lets classify people on visible things they were born with and then presume things about them purelly on their "classification" and treat them differently".

If this sounds strangelly like the far-right thinking that's because it is kinda derivative: the same architecture of deeming individuals as worthy/unworthy likely-good/likely-bad because they were born with certain characteristics as the far-right is used, and then the categories are swapped and the whole thing is called "being progressive" as if it was only unfair to judge and treat people because of their genetic makeup if done in one direction but not in a different one.

Then there is the tankie Left, which also started with good intentions but seem to have confuse the recipe-book of slogans and the Party über alles discipline invented in the late 19th century and early 20th century by middle class intellectuals to inspired the near-illiterate masses of the time to create an utopian leftwing world (which didn't work) with the actual thinking Principles and Intentions from which the rules were made. Because these people follow the recipes without examining the against the principles and ideals and in contexts which are very different of the ones for which those rules were created, you went up with ridiculous ideas directly opposed to "the greatest good for the greatest number" principle like supporting Putin's invasion.

The followers of such "Lefts" hate it when their faith-like beliefs are examined against the actual Principles of Equality and "the greatest good for the greatest numbers" and found often to be directly opposing them, just like when you grab some religious book or other and point out the inconsistencies in it: there is no greater hate than that of the faithfull who sees the basis of their Identity be examined under the cruel light of logic and found to be mainly bollocks.

Or in other words, I think the Left here is a lot more the product of thinking things through and concluding that it would be a lot better to live in a World with less poverty, more equality and were a few did not amass more power than whole countries thanks to their wealth, and continuing to actually continue to think things through when face with slogans from the tribalist flag waving slogan parroting and social-circle-jerk groups which call themselves "Left" and which are the leftovers from Marxism in the XXI Century and the Neoliberal-inspired "in the greed is good context, lets pursue personal-upside maximization as an 'Identity' group instead of individually so that we can claim we're lefties".

PS: If it sounds I'm raging against the Left here, that just because I find the pettyness and self-serving sociopathy of the modern Right to be self-evident. I actually don't think you can be a true leftwinger genuinelly fighting for the greater good if you just blindly follow slogans and tribes. Funilly enough it also means I can actually respect a genuine old-style conservative, even whilst wholly disagreeing with him or her.

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