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[–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Doubt Israel would let it happen.

And doubt even more that Hamas would keep their word.

[–] DashboTreeFrog@discuss.online 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Yeah, quite likely on both parts, but the world has tried ~~a one state solution~~ the status quo (I've been corrected, current situation is not called one state) for how many decades now and we're seeing the results of that. Rather they try setting up an independent Palestine and working with the issues that come from that than just keep the genocide going.

Two state, interim UN appointed government, transition to Palestinian elected leadership maybe?. Easier said than done for sure but going down the current path is well... Not going great

[–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Agree. It's time for an adult to break up this fight and establish stability.

The UN transitional Palestinian government can work. Much like the post WW2 Japan and Germany. But you need it in place for 20 years to build up that society from scratch. Maybe they can have a democratically elected legislature sooner, but the actual government would need to a UN run for a long time.

Also, Israel should pay for it as war crime reparations.

Plus some heavy peacekeepers forces to smack the Israeli government down if they start acting like dicks again.

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee -5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

The Palestinians had a transitional government since the Oslo Accords in 1993. What are you talking about?

[–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

A Marshal plan style government, not an extremist controlled oligarchy.

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee -5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The Palestinian Authority is secular and has Christians in it. This proves yet again you have no idea what you are talking about. The Palestinian Authority is not Hamas, often it was in direct confrontation with Hamas.

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee -5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

The one state solution was never tried and never seriously proposed beyond some activist groups.

The two-state solution has been “in progress” since the Oslo Accords in 1993 to establish a Palestinian state on the territories occupied in 1967. The only party that prevented any actual progress is Israel with the continued expansion of illegal settlements and the 1995 assassination of the prime minister who signed the Oslo Accord. Since then successive Likud governments left the Oslo Accord in a zombie status before they officially killed it this month in the Kenesst.

Why are you talking about what you don’t know? It is frustrating to read people suggest the two-state solution as if the past 30 years never happened.

[–] DashboTreeFrog@discuss.online 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I suppose I'm misinformed here. As a person raised Muslim who lived several years in the middle east, most conversations I'm part of describe the whole area there pretty much being under control/oppressed by Israel, so a single state with a very limited Palestinian government, and in my had linked that to the concept of the single state solution I've heard about but never looked into.

Thanks for the correction, didn't realize single state is not what you call the current situation

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee -4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Sorry if my response was harsh. It is very important to get the history right. Zionists always falsely claim that Palestinians never tried peace. It is the Israelis not the Palestinians who assassinated their leader when he made peace.

[–] Zipitydew@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Iran wouldn't let it be either. If Hamas fell apart another proxy would be getting setup asap.

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee -4 points 3 months ago

Sorry if my initial response was harsh. I hate seeing Zionist talking points repeated.

I am willing to try again and take the time to explain the history to you with sources and evidence and you can draw your own conclusions.