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[2013] Most Ashkenazi Jews are genetically Europeans, surprising study finds (www.nbcnews.com)
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Though the finding may seem intuitive, it contradicts the notion that European Jews mostly descend from people who left Israel and the Middle East around 2,000 years ago. Instead, a substantial proportion of the population originates from local Europeans who converted to Judaism, said study co-author Martin Richards, an archaeogeneticist at the University of Huddersfield in England.

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[–] Paraponera_clavata@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I thought this was like, what defined Ashkenazi Jews. Maybe it's surprising to folks in the middle east and North Africa?

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee -4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Yet they claim to be indigenous and are returning home instead of the truth. That’s where the “surprise” part in the title comes from. I had many people argue with me that Ashkenazi are indigenous to Palestine and the descendants of people who left 2000 years ago. Worse many of them claim to be our (Arabs) cousins.

Maybe it’s surprising to folks in the middle east and North Africa?

Them turning bright red in the summer left no room for surprises. We always knew. It is NBC News and Western outlets that are surprised.

[–] StoneGender@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

This not true, and the human genome hadn't even been completed at the time. I'm anti Israel have been all my life. But this just isn't true.

[–] pelletbucket@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago

I don't understand. this is a study from 2013, and the genome was mapped by 2003

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee -3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Refutation without a counter source isn’t welcome here. Wasting people’s time is a troll tactic. It is another thing if you had a source that proves your claim, but you don’t.

The genome study is one evidence, another evidence is their susceptibility to melanoma unlike the indigenous Palestinians.

It’s not enough being anti-Israel if you still promote the foundational myths of Zionism. Ashkenazi Jews are not indigenous to Palestine or any part of the Middle East.

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Not really surprising. It is the most obvious thing actually unless you are blinded by ideology.

[–] Paraponera_clavata@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

It's also an article from 2013....

[–] Paraponera_clavata@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Just agreeing that it's a garbage post - sorry if that ellipsis was ambiguous.

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee -5 points 3 months ago

An alternative source for those who think NBC News is making it up.