I thought we had an effort thread/post on this topic. If someone could link it, that would be great. So, I guess it depends on the person you’re talking to. If they’re just an average liberal and not someone you care about, I honestly wouldn’t even bother. But if they’re someone cool and you care about them, I’d probably slowly work my way toward this topic. There are lighter topics you can use to gradually deprogram liberals.
this post was submitted on 18 Aug 2024
99 points (88.4% liked)
askchapo
22842 readers
202 users here now
Ask Hexbear is the place to ask and answer ~~thought-provoking~~ questions.
Rules:
-
Posts must ask a question.
-
If the question asked is serious, answer seriously.
-
Questions where you want to learn more about socialism are allowed, but questions in bad faith are not.
-
Try !feedback@hexbear.net if you're having questions about regarding moderation, site policy, the site itself, development, volunteering or the mod team.
founded 4 years ago
MODERATORS
I thought we had an effort thread/post on this topic.
Oh my bad I forget a lot about stuff posted on this website.
No. Im not blaming you. I might be wrong but I "thought" we had a thread on the topic that went into depth. I might be wrong though. I remember there being multiple threads talking about the topic at least
remember there being multiple threads talking about the topic at least
That's a certainty, given our user base. I've probably interacted with some of the more recent ones.
From the top of my head Check the deprogram subreddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheDeprogram/comments/ydw9zi/doing_a_research_project_on_the_uyghurs_in_china/ Lots of links + sources etc. There is probably a ton more by now online since this thread is 2 years old.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheDeprogram/comments/1d54php/can_anyone_explain_the_uyghur_situation/
load more comments
(1 replies)
It depends on the person. Some people don't really pay attention to the news, were relatively young when some of this first came out, and some people are just sorta ambivalence about all the politics stuff, even if they see it. With them, I know I might have hope in explaining details.
If it's someone that's committed, but is still a bit of a civility lib, I just quickly mention the UN report that said there wasn't genocide, mention that there may still be issues, and then talk about how they shouldn't use that word too carelessly, because it lessens the impact of more "real" genocides. That should all happen in the span of less then a minute, and then I'll quickly change the subject or leave the conversation. Hopefully, they care enough about word choice that they stop using the word "genocide" (though often they'll call it something else that's also sort of wrong, but hopefully less wrong). Getting people to change the words they use is a very small step, but hopefully more steps in the right direction can follow.
And then there are some people where it's easier to just dodge the China topic. China hasn't been the main focus of the media for a while, so saying good things about China usually gets through, a lot of the anti-China libs of the 2010's are much more focused on the whole Ukraine and Russia ordeal. Saying good things about China and Xinjiang will probably get a lot less of a reaction than having a controversial opinion about Ukraine. I've never seen random people flying Uyghur supporting flags, but I've seen many, many Ukraine flags.