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I have a genuine question for the Democrat style libs from other instances: How can you possibley still call yourselves leftists and stand by the Democrats after Biden? (hexbear.net)

submitted 1 year ago by ThisMachineKillsFascists@hexbear.net to c/fediverse@hexbear.net

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I'm not asking this to bait you. It's not a trick question. I genuinely want to know.

Biden himself has stated multiple times that he wants to "reach across the aisle" (his exact words) and work with Republicans. You know, the same Republicans that are banning abortion and LGBTQ+ people? The same Republican party that has literal white supremacists in its political ranks? I earnestly want to know why you still back a party that openly wants to work with fascists.

The only answer I've ever seen liberals give is that the Republicans are worse... and they are, yeah, but if your choices are pure evil, and the guy who works with pure evil, doesn't that suggest that both of them should be opposed? And as we've seen, a democratic government won't fight to protect marginalized groups from the bigoted laws the Republicans are passing, so even voting for them to protect those groups from fascism just isn't working.

And what do you make of Biden telling his wealthy donors that "nothing will fundamentally change." and Biden boasting about the economy while rent skyrockets people live out of their cars and struggle to feed themselves? How can you call yourself a leftist or a even progressive if you stand by that?

Again, I'm not saying these things to be abrasive, I genuinely want an honest answer.

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[–] invertedspear@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don’t think anyone that considers themselves leftist supports Biden. I’d love to have a chance to primary him out, but that’s not a choice we get. We unfortunately have to make concessions because what other choice do we really have? Let’s say a true leftist ran alongside Biden and Trump in 2020. Trump would have won and we’d be further screwed.

But really, let me ask you this, how would you oppose both Dems and GOPs without just handing control over to the Right? The majority of the US leans left, but the Reps are the biggest party. If we fragment because the best-chance candidate isn’t left enough, then the country will be controlled by the GOP.

I mean the other alternative is a full blown revolution, but who’s going to strike the first blow there?

[–] sicklemode@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

how would you oppose both Dems and GOPs without just handing control over to the Right?

Hold on a second, what do you mean here? The Democratic Party and the Republican Party are both right-wing parties. The US has always been a far-right country. When, exactly, was it not?

It's immaterial which party is in power, they are all funded by the capitalist class and the work of the capitalist class is carried on regardless.