this post was submitted on 16 Jun 2023
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The instance seems to be mostly right wing trolls. I know defederating is unpopular but I don't think much is to be lost in this case and it can save the mods some headaches.

Edit: the response on exploding-heads.com to my reporting of transphobia. Courtesy of the "second in command"

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[–] carrot@sh.itjust.works 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (29 children)

No, don't defederate. Just because an instance doesn't align politically with your views doesn't mean that they have to be gone. And we should definetly avoid a mastodon blocklist situation.

If you refuse to meet someone on level ground because you consider them intolerant of your own ideas, you're the one being intolerant.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 years ago (11 children)

Why should the ground be lowered to a level that fits the criterias of bigots?

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[–] ohheywei@kbin.social 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Just as an outside observer - a lot of people from reddit are out searching for a new home. Convos like these will set the tone for every new entrant so you have the opportunity now, before it all goes really big like reddit, to shape a community based on mutual aid, love, earnestness instead of one focusing on building capital at any cost.

There are so so many socially conservative sites and spaces fully dedicated to those communities, big enough that even normal media covers them. But how many Gabs or Parlers exist out there for marginalized people, how many communities are willing to do the hard work of ensuring there could be a beloved community where hatred and minimization is curtailed, who don't act according to the will of private investors demanding incessant growth?

I hope there can be spaces like that which can grow from a watershed moment like this. It would be really cool if it were this one 😌

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[–] sixdix@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (4 children)

My experience with exploding-heads is they are mostly level headed serious users and not trolls at all. Degenerating because one person had their feeling hurt is dumb and ruins the fediverse for everyone

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[–] L0Wigh@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Defedarating for political reasons seems stupid to me. If it's proven that the community is toxic and full of trolls, that is an argument to do it. Anyways, as other said, for now I don't think we really need some more defedaration drama

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[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 years ago (24 children)

No, don't de-federate. If you don't like it, block it, easy as that.

Lemmy is meant to be better than reddit, which means dealing with opposing views. If they're triggering or offensive to you, block them.

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[–] Thrillhouse@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

I agree holy shit I went there today and there was some hateful af stuff

[–] Codo@slrpnk.net 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah okay I get we’re all upset but he has read the patriot act, so…

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[–] Kichae@kbin.social 18 points 2 years ago

No. Nazis need to be blocked by the instance admin. Otherwise, it's time to look for a new instance.

[–] BaroqueInMind@kbin.social 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

To me, Exploding-heads are on the other side of the same coin that Beehaw exists on in regards to fringe exteme ideologies and sensitive emotionally fragile admins. Defederating them both is pretty fucking dumb because it will create echo chambers that will in result churn out more idiots. Just block them via your preferred instance.

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[–] Floon@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I often hear the argument "they'll just go elsewhere," "they'll just start new accounts," etc, to defend not censoring/defederating/blocking/whatever fascist or proto-fascist people or sites. That's not an argument, that's a commitment to rolling over for fascists and intolerance. They're bringing the fight, and not fighting back and making their lives harder is just helping them move the Overton Window further to the right, and making horrific ideas palatable.

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[–] NabiscoShredderWheat@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz 17 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Fuckers like you are the reasons this is going to fail. Redditor neckbeard hivemind that mass downvotes everything they disagree with.

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[–] InfiniteVariables@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (28 children)

IDK why people are thinking he's gonna de-federate for transphobia when he has allowed the matt walsh documentary to sit on his instance for days now

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[–] kraken@u.fail 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

it would be better, to be able to block a whole domain/instance per user, like we can do it with communities

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