this post was submitted on 04 Sep 2024
7 points (59.5% liked)

Videos

5691 readers
28 users here now

Neat vids from youtube or wherever. Rules later

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
dessalines@lemmy.ml
7
Germany never De-Nazified (youtu.be)
submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by Alsephina@lemmy.ml to c/videos@lemmy.ml
6 comments fedilink hide all child comments
 

Is it unresolved guilt over the Holocaust that is behind Germany's blind belief in Israeli propaganda? Or have they simply not dealt with the fascism that led to the Holocaust?

top 6 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

In many cases, the West German government actually had more nazis after WW2 than during the Third Reich

Fully 77 percent of senior ministry officials in 1957 were former members of Adolf Hitler's Nazi party, a higher proportion even than during the 1933-45 Third Reich, the study found.

From 1949 to 1973, 90 of the 170 leading lawyers and judges in the then-West German Justice Ministry had been members of the Nazi Party.

Of those 90 officials, 34 had been members of the Sturmabteilung (SA), Nazi Party paramilitaries who aided Hitler's rise and took part in Kristallnacht, a night of violence that is believed to have left 91 Jewish people dead.

[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Dont forget operation paperclip too. And the soviet equivalent.

“youre a nazi? but you can build rockets? welcome to america!”

[–] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Difference between capitalist states' treatment of nazis and that of the socialists is that the capitalists kept them in positions of power — since the prevalence of fascism means the capitalist class can more easily scapegoat marginalized people for capitalism's faults — while the Soviets used them as reparations for the millions of Soviets the nazis killed, then left the nazis to rot afterward as they should — because fascism is actually a threat to socialist states.

[–] novibe@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

The Soviets kept the Nazi scientists in prison tho… and after they finished their work they were left to rot.

Stalin famously wanted to execute every single military officer from Nazi Germany after the war, and Churchill threw a hissy fit saying “they didn’t deserve it, they were just protecting their country like any good (white, racist) man would!”.

And then the US “rehabilitated” many of the Nazis and put them into positions of power, in the West German US occupied territories, in the nascent NATO, in the US itself….

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago

Fully 77 percent of senior ministry officials in 1957 were former members of Adolf Hitler's Nazi party, a higher proportion even than during the 1933-45 Third Reich, the study found.

"We didn't expect the figure to be this high," said study co-author Christoph Safferling

I didn't expect it to be so low. Almost a quarter weren't Nazis, impressive for a Nazi state.